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In Reply to: RE: Dipole bass posted by genungo on November 30, 2014 at 05:55:56
Hi and thanks a lot for the reply
I should have said better that my question is for normal size speakers
Something like B&W 801 that by the way were used also in recording studio
This is a very important endorsement in general
I live in a small flat but i would like to listen to a realistic piano sometimes ... not to an harpsichord without bottom frequencies.
Thanks a lot anyway.
Kind regards,
bg
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... I'd rather work with subwoofers and smaller standmount speakers than with full range towers. With large towers in a small room, the placement options are too limited.
In a small room, you are forced to place your towers in or near the corners of the room. And in many small rooms, the corners are the worst place for your bass drivers to be. Smoothness of bass response is an important concern if you want realistic piano sound.
You will probably be using some EQ to help smooth the bass out, but EQ primarily deals with bass spikes while leaving the bass dips mostly unfixed. Subwoofers allow for so many more placement options than full range towers do, which is an especially important asset when your room is small and your goal is smooth bass integration.
What is the size room size?
Hi and thanks again for the valuable advice
My present room is about in feet 14*18*10
Maybe with this size very low bass is out of reach _ i read something about this but i did not understand well.
Yes size of the speakers is really and issue
Towers could be an option but usually they sport small woofers and i do not like side firing woofers at all
So it seems that sub-woofers can be the best solution
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 11/30/14
I am in a 15 x 12 room
Maggie 3.6's passively bi-amped with a pair of Berning ZH270 amps. -3db at 25hz. Piano sounds just great. The big difference in the bass was the Berning amps
Alan
I've heard similar. I used to own Maggie 1.6 speakers in a similar sized room and I always credited the superb bass quality to the dipole dispersion pattern. Dipole bass just sounds better.
I'd call your room "medium-sized" rather than "small". When a room is much smaller than approx. 10 X 15 X 8, subwoofers and standmounts become the smarter choice.
Since your room is medium-sized, one option to consider might be multiple small subwoofers placed at various points across the room, for smooth and deep bass across a large listening window. It's nice to hear piano sound that fills the room - wide and deep, rather than small and narrow...
Hi and thanks again
Honestly i was not thinking to the multiple subs solution
But i can understand the wide sound window they can provide
My idea is to send to the sub the range from 150 down and use a pair of nice bookshelfs above that
More a bass than a real sub (i think sub is only for very low freq usually below 60 ?)
Kind regards,
bg
You might want to use bipole subwoofers if you plan on stacking small bookshelf speakers on top of the subwoofers. Because of the opposing drivers, bipole subs cancel out their own cabinet vibrations. Which means, less mechanical interference with the bookshelf speakers on top.Unless you stack the bookshelf speakers on top of the subwoofers (or at least keep them very close to their subwoofers), crossing over at 150 hz might make bass info above 80 hz or so seem like a separate source of sound, audibly disconnected from the soundfield created by the main speakers.
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