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In Reply to: RE: Why did you sell the Ref 3as? posted by morricab on August 18, 2014 at 02:48:42
Me too but I suppose not everyone has the same tastes we do, heh?
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Yeah you know I came from many years of boxless speakers (planars, stats, ribbons) and the Ref 3as are probably the closest to that kind of sound I have heard from a "conventional" box.
Now mine came originally with normal Vifa softdomes and the sound was smooth, musical, relatively dynamic and pretty transparent but it was missing that something extra on top that I was getting with my planars. Going to the Be tweeters removed layers and made everything more open, transparent and free from the speakers.
I also have Reference 3a L'Integrales and they are also pretty special. I have replaced the tweeters in these with other softdomes but it doesn't compare with what the Be tweeters bring. The bass and imaging though of the L'integrales is actually better than the monitors (especially the bass, which is deep and powerful). I might upgrade to Be for the L'intgrales as well because that top end sparkle is still missing with the better softdome.
I have heard pretty high up models in the Audio Note speaker line but I hear them as distinctly colored by comparison. They are compelling music makers but no more than the Ref 3as. Harbeth's sound comparatively dead to me.
I steered my friend unto Grand Veena with Murata supertweeter for the wrong reasons. He wanted tube friendly speaker recommendation and I just glimpsed over that "planar like quality " which is not a quite desirable thing in my book.3A speakers lack natural tonal color and often can sound thin and cold and absent. Compared to Audio Note or vintage drivers based speakers they sound almost synthetic. Listening to 3A speakers is like having sex with plastic doll. Recommended for highly evolved Germanic listeners :)
lol, yeah, I really didnt love the ref 3a decapo, hyper detailed and amazing soundstage, but really thin and a bit bright.
Anyways, this thread could close, Ive already purchased the AN J Lx. will report once Ive listen to them!
excited like a kid at christmas really and hope the AN J will be ``it`` for a good while.
... how different people's impressions are of the same speakers!I've heard Ref 3A speakers variously described as "warm", "cold", "natural" sounding, "plastic" sounding, etc...
I've never heard a pair, but I guess I'll have to now...
Edits: 10/02/14
I'm not familiar with the Audio Notes but I agree concerning the Harbeth's at least compared to the lively breathing presentation of the DeCapo BE. Interesting you own the L'Integrals, I have a good buddy that recently purchased a used pair. He is struggling with them at the moment but only because he really doesn't have the system set-up ideal to this design. We both hear the great potential however particularly when I brought my Berning zh270 running through his Creek Destiny Integrated. The L'Integrals definitely have a fullness and greater weight in the low mids upper bass region that I don't hear with the DeCapos and wouldn't expect to in a speaker their size. The house sound is there however and I'm very much looking forward to hearing them in my space next week in a system originally designed around a tube loving speaker and fine tuned around the DeCapo's.
I was going back and forth between the L'integrales and the Master Control MMCs quite a lot...until I put the Be tweeters in the MMCs. Since then I have hardly hooked up the L'integrales. I am thinking of selling them now as I am very happy with the monitors + a really good Mirage BPSS210 servo sub. Plenty tight accurate deep bass that way.
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