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In Reply to: RE: hi-rez acoustic suspension minimonitors? posted by budget minded on August 05, 2014 at 15:41:54
There's a bunch from Selahhttp://www.selahaudio.com/index/#/monitors/
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that's the problem. no one seems to want to make good sealed minis anymore. i'd swear it's a greed conspiracy to keep little speakers from embarrasing overpriced junk like the little infinity RS 4 1/2" minis with foam (!!!) tweeters did everything i'd listened to before around 1985.
no one's mentioned selah, but they're out of my price range. i'd get $2500 ATC SCM 11s before those, but i'd really like to find a pair under $1,000. it's really starting to get annoying that no one does except NHT just about.
selah, alon, bigfoot, neumann, magico, wilson, sp acoustics, aerial, ATC & audionote all might make speakers that sound great, but who can afford them?
If it's ported, it's distorted.
You want less distortion, but you don't want to pay for units that are designed and built with components that minimize distortion.BTW you do know that at tuning frequency a reflex system will actually have far less IM distortion than a sealed unit at same frequency?
If low distortion is you goal, then neither sealed or reflex will approach the low distortion of a front loaded bass horn with a properly sized back chamber. Down side of course is size, but nothing beats that configuration for low distortion, period. (reams of data on that if you care)
But you have made up your mind/choice, thats fine, just know that to get good sound, you need to spend good money be they reflex, horn or sealed alignment designs.
True not stratosphere pricing but possibly more than those units of the past you mentioned.
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that's only because there's an industry wide bias against acoustic suspension speakers. a pair of minis could easily be built for $500 with decent cabinets and drivers (if ONLY energy used 3/4" MDF in my former RC-10s, i'd be happy with them the rest of my life. they're THAT resolved)
besides the cost cutting measures, especially in boxes, i tend to think that manufacturers deliberately don't build acoustic suspension speakers because a really good sub/sat system can easily embarrass a $5,000 tower.
the "keep it simplestupid" principle AKA "eye fi". it's what made me realize just how bogus most speakers were when my friend's little $120 4 1/2" nfinitys took a dump on EVERY speaker i ever heard in every way EXCEPT bass extension, but the clarity of the bass is what grabbed me. the quality, not the quantity.
i'd gladly pay $500 for RC-10s with REAL cabinets or even superzeros with premium drivers. it CAN be done. it's looking like i'm just going to have to go the DIY route to get the speakers i want with a reasonable price.
If it's ported, it's distorted.
... but they also build small monitors using dome tweeters (and speakers made to custom specifications), one example being the "Vicino" ($995). Not made in some Asian prison factory for mere pennies but not exactly "crazy expensive" either...If you asked them about it, Selah might be able to build you a custom design using 1" thick MDF for the cabinet and drivers that fit your budget and tastes. Check it out!
Good things have been said about Selah Audio so far. The "Anniversario" looks like a good one. I like ribbon tweeters and you probably would too. Airy and detailed. Selah Audio speakers may not be the most efficient speakers around but if you have a good 50 watts or so you should be fine.
Realize, you are probably not going to find gold for the price of copper. Save up your money for as long as necessary and get yourself something that will satisfy you for a good while.
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their website doesn't say which speakers are sealed or ported, but i really liked the looks of a lot of their speakers with seas excel and scan speak & fountek etc. drivers.
they're just a little bit pricey for me at $1500 to start.
i'm really thinking the best way to get premium drivers in a sufficiently dense box, and also including diffraction reducing radiused edges that few manufacturers use is to just build my own 2 ways with premium crossover components.
i'd love to own that 7" 3 way system with ribbon tweeters and dome mids if the cabinets were rigid. i'd plug the ports if needed. i bet those speakers have tons of midrange and treble speed. i couldn't afford them, but i probably wouldn't kick them out the door either
If it's ported, it's distorted.
Did you even bother to look at the picture gallery in the link I provided? As I've said, you might be able to have them build you your "dream budget minimonitor" or something like that for under $1000 - if you'd bother to ask them. Replace speculation with fact-finding, get on the phone, and see what possibly might be...However, don't expect to find your ideal speakers for Asian NHT Zero prices, anywhere. It simply can't be done here.
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