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In Reply to: RE: hi-rez acoustic suspension minimonitors? posted by budget minded on August 05, 2014 at 15:41:54
ATC SCM 7 (5" @ $1,500) SCM 11 (6" @ $2,500) are very expensive, but true high end monitors from all the reviews i've read... out of my immediate price rangegallo strada 2 minis @ $1,000 are definitely worth trying to audition from reviews comparing them to electrostats
sonnance 622c 6 1/2" 2 ways with 1" sandwich cabinets at just $500 are REALLY interesting sounding options that might just be what i end up getting if only their soft domes are more revealing than superzeros which shouldn't be hard as cheap mission and celestion soft domes are clearly superior and superzeros are my current "reference" because of their lack of cabinet resonance even if they lack resolution and are too forgining
role audio kayaks @ $750 are at least affordable and very well reviewed, but their parent company, NSM uses internally braced 1/2" MDF on a fairly expensive speaker and i wouldn't trust them to be listenable unless i knew thay used at least 3/4" MDF.
my dissapointing but well reviewed mission and energy speakers both had resonant cabinets that totally ruined their sound for me. it's sad because the energys in particular used extremely revealing and uncolored drivers that spanked my superzeros from top to bottom in every way, but i'd still go with the zeros because they're uncolored with their better boxes.
you know, audio reviews never seem to talk about box resonances unless it's for crazy expensive speakers like magico, wilson or YG acoustics with their aluminum and lead cabinets. any time i audition speakers, the very first thing i do is knock on the cabinets. you can't get true hifi sound out of resonant boxes no matter how good your drivers and crossovers are.
someone's gotta be making entry level speakers with cabinets as good as NHT and sonnance and drivers as good as energy unless greed conspires to keep anyone from ever doing better.
If it's ported, it's distorted.
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jm
i'm a long ways away from actually being able to buy anything. my receiver is still in storage along with my music collection and i don't even have a CD player, but when i can afford to go out of state and get my things shipped back, i want to start rebuilding my system.
right now, i'm just researching, but thanks for the offer.
If it's ported, it's distorted.
... I'm wondering if the ATC or Gallo speakers might be your two best choices. Role Audio and Sonance might sound a bit too polite, at least for your tastes.These inexpensive little HSU speakers with their horn-loaded tweeters might be another good choice for you, although you say you dislike ported speakers. Although described as being non-fatiguing (and that could be interpreted as sounding "polite"), the reviews seem to be positive ones (in which the reviewers praise the HB-1s "transient response")...
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not a fan of horn tweeters either. if i wanted to get a ported speaker, it very well might be an axiom milennia (3?). they've been well reviewed and feature dayton (MB quart) titanium tweeters i know from experience are very fast and detailed without any metallic signature i was able to hear in the 2 ways i rebuilt. i'd get those and just plug the ports, but really, i'd rather not buy ANY ported speaker as that just encourages manufacturers to kleep making them.what i like is speakers that don't add or subtract anything to a signal. i really love the sound of magnepan MG12s on the right equipment, but i've heard terrible resonances on 2 of their larger speakers. when they sound right, planars have the fastest speed and detail with absolutely no boxy resonances. they're just really amp fussy.
i'd want to audition sonance speakers before i buy them or at least buy them with a return policy. while they may be less revealing than something with a metal dome or ribbon etc., i HAVE heard soft domes that sound a lot better than my superzero's overly polite fabric domes. i think that's what it was... heavier material.
my celestion ditton 100s and mission M71s both had soft domes that were much faster and extended than my NHTs. i thought i read that sonance uses a silk dome. that should be better.
i'm just looking for something that has more resolution than superzeros, but without the cabinet resonance of celestion/mission/energy or the aluminum signature of NHT classic 3s. i'm also not necessarily looking for a speaker that's the last i ever own, just something that neither obscures too much detail nor adds resonant distortions.
If it's ported, it's distorted.
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Get the pair of ATC-SCM-10 Active speakers that are currently for sale on Ebay/Epay......bidding at $820.00
my entire music collection and what's left of my system is in storage in another state. i just started reading audio mags again and decided to try and find info on the kinds of speakers i like and that fit my budget unlike most of the ported and/or crazy expensive stuff reviewed in stereophile and absolute sound.
If it's ported, it's distorted.
Ears can make great research tools when ideas get in our way. I would suggest simply listening from now on, listen with as little prejudice as possible (a blindfold might help). You might be surprised at what is *heard*.
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