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Verity audio Leonore. Will be a good choice for down grade from Wilson Maxx 2? I want less bass, less amplifier needs and more relex listening sessions.
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Verity makes an excellent loudspeaker, I just haven't heard that one.
I have heard Vivid's K-1, and I love it. $25,000,
I have not heard Vivid's G-3, but it is supposed to be wonderful.
Vivid, like Wilson Benesch, takes a more "European" approach to bass.
Best of luck.
John
Hi John,We've traded a lot of e-mails about speakers in the past, agreeing on many things -- but I can't agree with you here.
I don't believe that there's a "European" approach to bass at all. We measure a lot of speakers in the chamber and the bass response varies greatly company to company, but there's no correlation with the country really. There's simply the way a designer chooses to go at things.
By your Vivid message, I get that the idea is that their bass is "light." In fact, you can look at the measurements of quite a few North American speakers and find their bass is lighter. If you look at B&W's measurements (or even Sonus Faber's these days), you'll see the typical emphasis at 60-120Hz) and a sound power curve that is quite downward sloping. Ditto for Harbeth. Nothing "European" about their bass response at all.
If we're talking about bass extension, that's an entirely different story, dictated mostly by cabinet volume and driver size.
Doug Schneider
SoundStage! Network
Edits: 07/03/12
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Leaner and less expansive, probably due to the fact that we traditionally have less space than the typical US home.
JB
US homes usually have interior construction consisting of one thickness of plasterboard nailed to wooden studs, and interior walls are usually hollow. That creates bass traps with a working frequency around 60 to 80 Hz. If you put flat-response loudspeaker in such a room, it will sound to a greater or lesser degree sucked out in the 60 to 80 Hz range--because the room is doing that.
Whereas in Europe and Japan, the purchaser of an expensive loudspeaker will often live in a poured-concrete high-rise, or an old brick house or apartment. That construction reflects a lot of the bass back into the room.
As a general rule, a speaker that sounds great in one kind of the above rooms will not sound so great in another. This is my entirely private theory why Wilson Benesch never caught on in the US--the bass works great in Germany and Japan, not so great in California and Texas.
JM
Thank you. In your opinion as I live in Europe, and have a concrete listenig room I am better with speakers from Europe. Which brand to make a downgrade from the Maxx?
As I haven't heard the Leonore I can't comment on them but other Verity have never impressed me with their bass, which I find loose and a bit uncontrolled. As a result you might have less bass than with your Wilson but could be frustrated. Once more that's just a theory based on what I heard from Verity. But then I like my bass lean, tight, percussive, rather than ample, generous and buzzy.Check out Amphion speakers in Europe as they are in my opinion one of the biggest sleepers in this indutry. I guess they're not expensive enough (although they are by no means cheap by normal standards).
JB
Edits: 07/04/12
Thank you for your sugestion. I will see the Amphion. But what do you think about the Kharma, 2.3 for example ( they have more presence in the used market).
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