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In Reply to: RE: Since you want a "musical" sub... posted by Jonathan 90 on June 14, 2012 at 07:45:40
Hey guys. Thanks much for your responses. The Vandersteen and Velodyne recommendations are outstanding ones; unfortunately, they're both WAY out of my budget, though I wish I could entertain the thought.
I narrowed-down those on the list because they're reportedly and consistently reviewed well, and my spending limit is around $600 or so; it's just I'm not certain as to what would be ideal out of the bunch for my room/size. I only want musical, tight, accurate bass to blend (no localization) with my speakers, which are pretty solid down to 50Hz.
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Consider running two modest subs wired in stereo to minimize localization & distortion, you would need two Antimodes, but with your large rectangular room a single sub would need to be quite stout to sound right.
Have fun
Thanks Craiger for confirming this for me. I was really quite worried about a large/stout sub in my room, for fear of it being too much (i.e., 'boomy' or overbearing). It would appear that this would not be the case with a well designed, larger sub. At least I think or am getting the impression that this assumption is correct.
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV12.html
and if you can stretch your budget, this;
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F12.html
Funny you mention the Rythmiks. I'm waiting to see when the VF version's redesign will be coming out (maybe EOY?). That was at the top of the list for a while.
My friend just built a pair of Rythmiks. He's an excellent woodworker and used exotic wood veneers. The fit and finish of the cabinet interior was a work of art in itself. This project took probably 3 months, but the end result is amazing both sonically and visually. The versatility of the plate amp alone is mind boggling.
Hi Mick, how've you been?
Ugh, I'm really starting to jonez for the Rythmiks. I think I might have to put it on the list again. I'm not much of a DIY-er, though I did work on an IsoBlue 5-tier, perfectly spec'd clone in maple that turned-out a real stunner (that was when I owned Naim gear exclusively). Cabinets though? Mmmm, probably not.
The equalization offered at this price point is generally limited. This will make its integration almost seamless.
http://www.dspeaker.com/
Yup.
Just received the Antimode 8033c yesterday (also have the cable adapter). Now, all I need is a sub ;)
Thanks everyone for your responses. I have a lot to think about. Right now, I'm pretty up-in-the-air, but leaning heavily toward HSU; or, if I can wait, a Rythmik FV series (unless anyone wishes to sell theirs).
Cheers all!
Jsawyer09,
I see your doing this the right way by purchasing the 8033c first and then looking for a sub. I have had a number of subs over the years (Def Tech, SVS, Velodyne,Hsu,etc...) as noted most are geared to HT use by lifting frequencies in the 80hz-40hz range. The two best that I have used for music are the Omega Deep Hemp and Shelby+Kroll Woofer Monitor.
I'm currenly using 2 S+K Woofer Monitors with matching Nano Monitors and an Antimode 8033s. So far the best bass I have had in my 15x21x8 room. I have only used the 8033s on the S+K's so I can't comment on how it will sound with the other subs.
I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but in my experience a 8" - 10" sub will work best for music. Most 12" and larger subs, in my experience have been to slow to keep up and lag a little behind. Perhaps there is now a 12" that will work well? Dunno...
"Grow older not up !!!"
Jimmy Buffett
I recently helped a friend put together a new stereo. He has a pretty small space in NYC, so wanted to keep the gear footprint as small as possible. We decided upon the following, for speakers:
Satellites: Silverline Minuet Supreme Plus
Sub: Rythmik F12G
His primary source is a Mac Book (only analog output for now, but soon, he'll get a DAC), and amplification is a ShengYa hybrid tube/ss integrated.
He's absolutely thrilled with the sound, and though the Rythmik is a big, powerful sub, he was able to get it very nicely blended with the little Silverline speakers, resulting in good, well balanced sound filling the room. He does have a good sense of "live" sound, as he just retired from working at Carnegie Hall for over 20 years. I've known his ears for years, so if he says it sounds wonderful, it does! (too bad I'm all the way across the country just now, and can't get out there straightaway to hear it myself). Putting this system together was a telephone/email collaboration. :)
By the way - I just upgraded the sub for my laptop computer's speaker system. The new sub is a HSU STF-1 (their smallest), and I must say, I'm impressed with this relatively-not-so-little "little" sub! (just an eight inch woofer, inside a good sized bass reflex cabinet). I've got it nicely blended with a pair of NHT Super Zeros, and along with the new Schiit Bifrost DAC, this little computer speaker system is sounding great! :)
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