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In Reply to: RE: What exactly is... posted by Bill the K on February 20, 2012 at 21:22:26
I think tuneful bass is when the low frequency driver is fast and accurate and is blended well with the midrange driver. The effect is that the bass is fast, tight, articulate and seemless - and sounds like an instrument playing.
Once you hear it you certainly know when it's not there.
The bass guitar can come out of a soundstage just like any other instrument, and the bottom end should be neither lean nor boomy.
A good way to destroy tuneful bass is to have a room with a big suckout or "one note bass" phenomenon, or a room with bad resonances in wall panels or hvac ducts.
Just my two cents.
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…'fast' bass?
Tight or accurate I understand but fast makes no sense at all as the speed of sound is the same regardless of frequency.
Consequently bass cannot be 'fast' or 'slow' as the speed never changes, at least not within the same room/altitude.
slow bass. :o)If you look at transient response of sealed, ported, isobaric and bandpass boxes you see increasingly worse transient response / group
delay.Maybe that's why sealed box guys think of their bass as articulate and "fast". Fastest settling time for a given driver?
It's not a new term in audiophile speak and no worse than PRAT!! ;)
Cheers,
Presto
Edits: 02/23/12
No term is worse than PRaT, that is complete BS.
Well, I don't get personally bent out shape about the term PRAT because I know exactly what they are talking about.
Sure, if you play a track on ten CDPs they will all take the same amount of time to play... philes are not suggesting otherwise.
But I've heard the difference between laid back systems that seem to slow down the music and more dynamic and articulate ones that seem to make the music... come to life. It's engaging and makes you tap your toes and want to listen to more and more music.
If that's PRAT, then I get it.
I prefer to use terms like articulate, engaging and dynamic.
Cheers,
Presto
Presto, some people's two cents is worth a lot more. Thanks.
Regards
Bill
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