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I have heard the 20.1's only once. It was in a store demo and the system and surroundings seemed to me to be absolutely perfect. this was a superb demo. It was in Alpharetta, Ga at a home theater store. My question is simply, do the 20.1s go down to 25 Hz as they claim. Is the bass strong? All in all, the 20.1's are not that expensive, but i dont want to pay that much money for a speaker with weak and deficient bass. I would greatly appreciate any feedback. thanks
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the room, the speaker placement, the equipment support, and the presence or absence of RF noise in the upstream equipment.
I've had my MG-20s since 1994, and continue to find better extension and more articulation as I remove RF noise from my setup.
You have to decide whether you want room pressurization or bass articulation (the ability to distinguish the individual strings in a piano, for example). Monopole bass can be appealing in terms of shaking things, but it is more difficult to achieve full articulation with it. It is also harder on the neighbors if you live in an apartment building or condo.
I would try and audition the King Sound King speakers for about half the price - they are electrostatic - have better bass and IMO sound a lot better. And again about half the price which would leave a pile of cash for top flight subwoofers if that is what you wanted.
I agree. Maggies with the right amplifier and Vandy subs. With proper set-up the sound will be right. The subs blend in perfectly with Maggies. You won't know that they are on. Also they open up the already huge soundstage.
Did they sound weak or deficient in the bass? What did you hear? Could you live with them? I know I could...
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I certainly have not attempted to measure the low frequency extension of 20.1s but they will play quite quite deep and with some impact given careful set up and the right amps. If you want bass extension AND impact IMO you are looking at something on the order of Bryston 7B-SSTs, Parasound JC-1s, McCormack DNA-500, etc. The only tube amp set up I have heard that approached the huge SS amps was biamped with the ARC VT200 on the bottom and the VT100 on top but that still didn't have quite the same shake factor.
With the right amp the bass from the big SoundLabs is very impressive.
-3db in a lab or anechoic chamber maybe. I owned various models of Maggies up to and including the 3.5R over 20 years. Bass is not their strong suit. They will not pressurize a room like a sub or good conventional loudspeaker. They do however produce a wonderful full spectrum sound. Most folks would not know what they are missing in low frequency heft or presence. The 20.1's are mighty fine and if I could afford them and lets say some Vandy subs I could live happily ever after. Local Maggie dealer sells a lot of different Maggies with Vandy subs.
I have auditioned these speakers with many different amps both ss and tubes and with and without subs. If you like power music look elsewhere. It is very difficult maybe impossible to get them to blend in with subs seamlessly. One caveat - I did not audition them with the Nola subs that Pearson likes in his surround sound set up. You may be able to do that at Lyric in NY. I badly wanted this to work but it just never did. These speakers also keep pushing you to turn up the volume to break through some veiling of the sound in my opinion. Still they are smooth with low distortion and have excellent high frequency extension. A used pair of Vandersteen 5As may get you closer to what you want but they are dynamically limited in a large room.
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