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I just moved into a new home and have sold off my B&W 801 s3 and i'm currently enjoying my Spendor SP1/2e.
My room is 10' 5" wide by 15' long with a 7' opening on the oposite end behind my seating position.
I can place the speakers 3 to 4 feet from the front wall and about 1 foot to 18'' from side walls. I sit 9 feet away.
I like the spendors but want to try something else since I have the B&W money. I found some Von VR4 Jrs localy and I was also looking at Gallo Ref 3.1s and for monitors Usher Be-718s
Any thoughts on speakers for this room size. I listen to clasic rock and blues 90% amp is PASS X250
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After just speaking with the folks at Aerial they are convinced becuse of the 7'ft opening at the rear of the room they will work.
Just another day before I decide
I have owned both the Montana and the Aerials. The SP IIs are so much better it's laughable. The Quads are a completely different beast and will be a good choice as long as you don't demand too much from them. The Montanas won't have that magical midgrange presence, but will be more versatile and complete across the board. I wouldn't hesitate to own another pair.
Oz
Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
- Winston Churchill
with a sub, should sound better then most of the speakers mentioned in this thread.
Dipoles will be a LOT more tolerant of close proximity to the side walls. With enough toe-in you can knock 10dB off your sidewall reflections compared to conventional speakers. A shelving high pass filter will help with the bass boost.For the pedantic among us and purposes of this discussion, planars don't count as dipoles. They're too acoustically large at high frequencies to act as true dipoles (cosine alpha polar response) and the resulting lobing makes placement more critical since the spectrum of the reflections you're picking up will vary depending on how you aim them. Ribbons are dipoles in the horizontal plane.
You could buy a set of AV123 X-statics at the low end, build Orions for $2500 and sixty hours in the shop, or buy Orions for $6500 a pair ($8200 packaged with a 12 channel amplifier)
Edits: 01/08/09
in a room about your size and they sounded much bigger than their physical size. Wonderful imaging, articulation, and dynamic range. The US distributor (aAudio Imports) is located in Denver, CO.
Len
I too am interested in these......OTOH with a $17K retail and the need to have them placed out in the room (rear ported) makes me gun shy. Also consider Merlin VSM, Gamut L-3 and for more expensive alternatives, Gemme Katana and Focal Diablo Utopia.
These speakers sound absolutely delightful pressed into corners. For a monitor, it has amazingly good bass and no boominess. The sound is relaxed, refined and just a bit on the "romantic" side although they are quite well balanced (not colored). The speakers you mentioned really do need to be a meter or so away from side walls to avoid bad reflections. Monitors, per se, do not solve this problem. I have a pair of 12" high Ls3/5As and they need to be at least a meter from side walls to really radiate without nasty reflections.
As for the post directly below, I think this is what the author was trying to get at in his own way. I will point out that, in many European countries, your room would be of average width. And I have seen Quad '57s make gorgeous music in such surroundings, too.
"Live free or die"
You shouldn't have let those Callistos go. They will beat the pants off the Ushers.
Oz
Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
- Winston Churchill
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Richard BassNut Greene
"The Floyd R. Turbo of Bingham Farms Michigan"
See you been busy with moving...
Anyway i would think that you might be better of with monitors in your room and a sub.
I think that i might just go that way my self and sell off a few of my floor standers..
I've been enjoying the Green Mountain Callisto's, I bet they would go good in that room.
Give me a call when you get a chance
Take care
Mike
Good to hear from you. Yeah moving sucks. Also smaller room sucks, but I have a basement that I put my SET system in and it sounds great.
The B&W were the Bomb I'm going to miss them I almost was going to live with them in the room. Maybe I'll try the 802N's their a liitle smaller and might be a step up in technolgy. Maybe I'll give some Magnepan 1.6s a try
Give it time and don't try to rush things. A different room will bring you a whole new set of challenges. You will need time to tune the room to the kind of sound that you like. I would suggest going about this as follows:
(1) speaker positioning - get this as close to optimum as popssible, don't forget the listener position int his equation
(2) room treatments - you will probably have bumps in different places than before. Treating the room will equalize things quite a bit and let you hear the true sound of your equipment in this new place
(3) Then identify the new strengths and weaknesses. You may want to borrow equipment from friends to see what changes are possible. The new problems may not be solved by new speakers - there will just be different problems.
But the 801's would probably be too big for the new space. Who knows, maybe monitors and a sub will fit your need, but you won't know until you try.
Good luck and enjoy the trip - it's half the fun.
Bob
A gentleman is best defined as someone who knows how to play the accordion ... and doesn't.
You may benefit more from some room treatments first.
The first thing I thought of when I saw your room is possible reflections off the left side wall. The lamp may offer some diffusion but some real treatments and possibly a leafy plant there may help quite a bit. Additionally, I'm not sure how you are dealing with the window on the right side but this would have to be balanced out with the left wall. Looks like you just close the drapes which may or may not be fine.
Best of luck,
Bill
I owned some several years ago and simply loved them - fantastic speakers.The irony is that I sold them because I moved to a smaller room almost the exact dimensions of yours, mine is 10.5x16x9. They should be fine in your room, however, since you have a 7' opening to another space, mine is a single enclosed space. How large is the space that the 7' opening opens into?
Edits: 01/06/09 01/06/09
the other room behind thc couch is 9 feet by 14 feet
I think you'd be fine with that - it's the equivalent of an 18x12x9 room and the VR4's should work very well.
On the long wall maybe....
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