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In Reply to: RE: Would Roksan Kandy amp match Dynaudio 70? posted by cychoong@mail.com on November 19, 2007 at 17:53:47
I own the Kandy Mk III not the L, no issue at all with my Whatmough speakers (91 db, efficient, mostly 4 ohms). Some have said it's a bit dark, but I find it not bright (more accurate), and haven't been playing with power cords but did make a DIY one, and will be trying a new silver one soon.
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Don't know the Audience 70s but I suspect it was replaced by the 72 which, like most Dynaudios tend to 85-86 dB sensitivity and 4-6 ohm impedance. The 72 has 86 dB sensitivity and is rated at 4 ohms. Dynaudio recommend a minimum of 25 watts for a small room.
That tends to be only half the story with Dynaudios. What they really like is an amp that can dish out current so an amp with good current reserves and bigger amps tend to be better at delivering that. They also tend to sound happier at the same loudness levels with a big amp doing the driving than with a small amp.
Besides not knowing the 70s, I don't know the Roksan amp either. My best advice is to try the combination and see what you think.
David Aiken
and I've read Malaysian reviews of the older Kandy. Again, I own the amp, and think it's good and very good current. It replaced a Hafler XL 280 in my system, not a weak amp (!) but a bit brittle and bright in it's stock form, although I found it fully listenable with the speakers I had used. I should try it again on my newer setup.
As I said, I'm not familiar with the Kandy. I do have some familiarity with Dyns since I own a pair, but not the 70s.
I used to drive my Contour 1.3 SEs with a local (Australian) ME240 integrated, around 90w into 8 ohms and 110 into 4 ohms with the standard power supply. Mine had increased capacitance in the power supply, a stock option available from the manufacturer, and definitely provided better performance at low frequencies than the basic model. Specifications for the basic model indicated that it could provide peak current output of 20 amps. I've recently replaced that amp with a NAD Masters Series M3 integrated, 180 w into either 8 or 4 ohms and peak current output of 50 amps. The difference in the bottom end extension and weight of my Dyns is roughly on a par with the improvement I got when I tried supplementing them with a REL Storm III when I was using the ME240, and I'm talking about how they sounded at my normal listening levels with peaks around 85-86 dBC at the listening position roughly 2 metres from the speakers, and average levels around 10-15 dB lower than that on the music I listen to. At my peak volumes and listening distance the amp is basically delivering about 1-2 watts per channel, well within the ME240s power rating yet bass response in particular is very significantly improved at the same levels with the NAD. The difference between their performance with the 2 amps is a lot more than you would expect from a simple increase in amplifier power of roughly 2-3 dBW and, in fact, if you considered power demands in watts only, you really wouldn't expect there to be all that noticeable a difference between the 2 amps since 1-2 w/ch is well within the capacity of either amp.
When I say Dyns like current, I mean that they like an amp that is really capable of delivering current on demand, much more than you would expect. The Kandy may be up to it, but it may not. I simply don't know which is why I suggested trying it if possible. My 1.3 SEs didn't sound bad with the ME240, they sounded quite reasonable actually, but they never quite satisfied fully on material with strong low bass content. I preferred their sound without the sub when I had the ME240 but there were times after I moved the sub to a separate HT system when I occasionally found myself wishing for a bit of what it offered. I haven't felt that shortcoming since swapping to the NAD M3.
I suspect the Audience 70s might get by better with a less powerful amp than my 1.3 SEs do. For a start Dynaudio recommends a lower minimum power rating for the current 72 model than they did for my speakers and I think that's a positive sign but I'd still want to try them with the Kandy first if I could and the reason for my hesitation is simply my experience with a few Dynaudios. Without exception, they've all sounded good with decent quality amps of around 100 w and the OP said the Kandy delivers 120w so I don't think they'll sound bad with it. Also without exception, however, they've all sounded much better with larger amps, even when played at modest volume levels which have been well within the range of a smaller amp. I suspect it's probably possible to get good results with the Kandy, but I have some doubts about whether you would get the best results with them from an amp that size. That's a comment on Dyns, not on the Kandy.
David Aiken
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