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In Reply to: VSM-M with stingray posted by andy12 on August 3, 2005 at 00:14:21:
I think you are correct, however the Stingray delivers a big stage, nice dynamics, and rather musical presentation that is surprisingly satisifying on the VSMs. Considering the price, the Stingray (with triode/ultralinear switch whcih I highly reccomend) does a number of things quite well, otherwise you have to look at integrateds in the $3.5K+ price range from which there are a number of very nice tube units to choose from.As to a SET amps on VSMs.... they can do many nice things: Large palpable stage and imaging, wonderful body and tone when done right. (I do not sell any currently, but I think the Wavelength Audio are some of the best out there... I find certain WAVAC and old Audio Note units sound pretty nice). Though many can and do live with them happily, I do not think they are the ultimate solution for the VSMs though... for me OTLs are the ticket. They delivery the power, dyanamics, nauace, purity of tone etc etc that can really show what the VSMs are capable of.
Happy Listening,
Rich Brkich
Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
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Hi rich, actually I own a stingray and TSM-M, but i feel that they are not performing best, I heard a speaker half price the TSM sounds better at the shop, i think i did something wrong,
my setup is Puccini CDP, Stingray(without the triode switch) TSM-M, JPS superconductor2 interconnect, silveraudio symphony48 speaker cable. maybe its my room, maybe its ste speaker setup position?i replaced the stingray driver tube to telefunken, sounds better.
but the OTL amp is very expensive, will $3500 enough for a OTL? and are they dangerous? someone told me that OTL sometime will give dc current to speaker cable.
Hi Andy,Sorry for taking so long to responed to your post here.
First a quick note about OTLs... modern day OTLs are very reliable and do not destroy speakers or send DC down to them. All the modern day designs that I have seen that are currently in production are designed so that fuses or other protection methods will trip to prevent damage to speakers should a failure occur. Unless you try break a tube and stick you fingers into the powered exposed open tube elements, these amps are not dangerous.
I need to get some facts from you about your set-up before making any futher reccomendations:
1) Room set-up. I will need to know where the speakers are placed, what kind of stands they are on, size of the room, where the listening position is.
2) Your gear should work quite well with the speakers, but I do have my concerns about the speaker cables and interconnects in use. Are the speakers single wired? Are you using the RC networks? Are you using any kind of power conditioning or power cords with the gear? If so, what kinds?
Once I get a more complete picture of what is happening, we can figure out what is happening and get things sounding much better! :-)
Happy Listening,
Rich Brkich
Retailer & Audio Asylum Industry Liaison
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