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In Reply to: RE: Who makes a headphone SET amp? posted by aarocks on August 31, 2016 at 18:16:42
Eddie Current and Apex Audio come to mind.
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I always have trouble figuring out what is a real SET and what isn't. Is the Pinnacle the only SET made by Apex and is the Studio the only SET made by Eddie Current?
There is some confusion of nomenclature because pentodes (and beam tetrodes) can be wired as triodes and will behave as such. There is no universal agreement on whether such amps are called SETs or SEPs.
Single-ended is in contrast to push-pull; almost all amps are either one or the other.
Triodes (and triode-wired pentodes) have a low output impedance and thus do not need negative feedback. Most but not all SETs are zero-feedback. Some triodes are directly-heated, and some are indirectly heated. This aspect is also not clear; sometimes the term SEDHT is used, but again not universally.
I am part of the Bottlehead team, so I can't volunteer information on specific products here, but I think it's OK for me to say we do offer SET headphone amps.
I can volunteer: the Crack/Speedball amp on Senn HD800s is wondrous.
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"A man need merely light the filaments of his receiving set and the world's greatest artists will perform for him." Alfred N. Goldsmith, RCA, 1922
If you have an SET for speakers, just make a voltage divider to attenuate. With 2 series resistors and 2 parallel resistors you can let the amp see the impedance it likes and let headphones look back to the impedance they like, and get the exact volume range you want on your preamp. And, if it's a high quality SET, you'll get better sound than any headphone amp I have heard. Just a few dollars outlay for resistors.This way, you have a vast array of SETs to choose from, or you may already have the perfect SET for this use.
Edits: 09/27/16 09/30/16
Which of the Bottlehead amps are SET? Do you guys sell them assembled?
Paul can't discuss this here. He's affiliated with the vendor. Why don't you go to the Bottlehead site and review their products?
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A SET is a Single Ended Triode. If there is no triode then it is NOT a SET. The Consonance CYBER-20, for instance is not a SET. It is a SEP since it is a Single Ended Pentode.
"Cyber-20 is the first high-end vacuum tube headphone amplifier produced by Opera Audio. It uses two EL84 connected in triode mode single end operation"
Usually, there is a picture of the amp and/or the type of power tube is specified. If you don't know whether it is a triode or not, find a data sheet for the tube and that will tell you. The most common non-dht, non-idht tubes used are members of the KT88, EL34, 6L6, 6V6 families, i think.
It seems like a lot of amp descriptions will mention "single-ended" or "triode" but not necessarily "SET" or "single-ended triode". Is there a way to tell when researching them?
Is the Cyber-30 an SET?
> It seems like a lot of amp descriptions will mention "single-ended" or "triode" but not necessarily "SET" or "single-ended triode".
Yes, marketing documents are intended to confuse the consumer by using audio buzz words.
> Is there a way to tell when researching them?
Yes, look at the tubes in the device. Is the output tube a triode? If YES then it is a SET. If NO then NOT a SET.
Don't know if the tube is a triode or pentode? Look it up at the link below.
> Is the Cyber-30 an SET?
The Consonance CYBER-20, for instance, is not a SET. It is a SEP since it is a Single Ended Pentode. Check the EL84 data sheet at the link below.
Got it. So if the output tubes are triodes then it's an SET.
The Cyber 30 is said to use 2a3 output tubes which I believe are a triode tube so that's all we need to know to determine that it's an SET?
http://www.opera-consonance.com/products/cyber30.htm
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