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In Reply to: RE: Psvane 845T Mk II posted by cawson@onetel.com on February 15, 2016 at 05:10:04
You should have purchased their Psvane WE845 tubes! They are more then worth the difference in price over the 845T MKII.You should read my reply to your post on the Tubes Asylum. You can get to it at the link below...
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
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The Psvane WE845 isn't available in UK and I've no idea where I could have got them. What price and where from? Where can I read about the differences in the various 845s?Why they're called WE I can't understand as Western Electric never manufactured 845s I'm reliably told!
Thanks
Edits: 02/15/16
Welcome to the world of shopping in the US from the EU! I learned to bite the bullet long ago and pay the shipping + VAT to Denmark.
Doesn't Grant Fidelity ship to the U.K.? Maybe not...just wondering.
Here is their explanation of the Psvane WE845.
DanL
That document from Psvane is simply a marketing tool full of the hyperbole and one expects from those in the business of selling fantasy, nostalgia, and myths: "In 1937, Western Electric responded to competition from RCA845 with their newly designed WE284A - which was considered by users to deliver more lively sound than the RCA845"
Good bit of fluff/BS in that page. Particularly about WE284 vs. RCA 845, etc. It's not like consumers used these, and the folks that did (theaters) were more concerned with lifetime and cost than anything to do with the sound per se. Not only that, but of course WE didn't sell tubes or gear to anyone, it was always leased, and only to commercial clients (e.g. theaters, broadcasters, etc.) - thus no one was really tuberolling 845s back in the 1930s and the WE 284 never "set the new standard".
there's no real "replica" going on here. they are most similar to the GE-845 internal construction more than anything else. The tipped bulb looks cool but is only for looks, not function (there's a reason they stopped making tipped bulbs for these tubes in the 1930s or so.)
I will agree that WE 284s are certainly rare (though I do have a few) but the biggest differences with the early 845s and later ones were the metal plates (and limited dissipation) vs. the later graphite plates. Even WE switched to graphite plates for some of their 284s (and other similar tubes.)
-Ed
Hey Ed,
Good info and I can't agree more that the Psvane WE845 resemble the structure of GE845 tubes more than anything internally. Interesting that they sound so different and better IMO.
I'd wish you could hear them because most here would value your opinion.
Naz
hi Naz -
Thanks, I will get some one of these days and compare to what I have on hand. It would be interesting to hear the differences, I am sure. Thanks for the kind words,
-Ed
Thanks for that - I read it and a few other WW845 and 845T Mk II articles yesterday. They nearly all come from Psvane sites so a pinch of salt may be advisable.
I've gone for the Ts because that was the best I could find on Ebay UK or from UK-based suppliers. The £300 price (inc 20% VAT and P&P) is about half the cost to a WE845 - the WEs would probably be even more if I was clobbered by tax when imported from a US, HK or China supplier.
I'm not against importing direct but things can go wrong. It often takes a long time, you're dealing with someone you know nothing about and Ebay (the intermediate agent) is disinterested if things go wrong. I imported a pair of 845Cs a couple of years ago to find one broken on delivery. The China based supplier refused to accept photo evidence and insisted I return the broken item within an unreasonably time. I didn't bother so now have a single 845C - not much use.
Peter
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