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In Reply to: RE: May I express my dismay posted by RGA on August 26, 2015 at 06:49:55
>"Red Book CD, which is still the best, currently available digital music format."
Do you think this statement is true or false?
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If it's played back on Audio Note CD players - then yes. And Audio Note and Peter Qvortrup are making those comments based on their "playback" systems comparing the playback of CD through their rigs against the best competition of hi res digital and SACD.
Is it technologically the best format according to measured response? No - but as noted what is technologically the best on the measurements test doesn't mean it provides the best end result. As note SET is technically the worst, Non Oversampling CD players are technically worse than oversampling CD players, etc etc and yet the listening sessions say otherwise. People tend to go from SS to tube. I grew up on CD and moved to vinyl. Although good CD is enjoyable.
I have a pretty excellent computer audio player in the Line Magnetic 502CA and I have plenty of hi res FLAC and other recordings - And it does sound good. But I'd rather listen to them through an AN DAC 3.1 or better still vinyl.
Okay, fair enough.
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Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
This is taking into account the remastering market and so on. Where you find a true high-resolution recording chain, then perhaps, with the right high-bit digital playback systems one can do better. But I haven't found these to be that common.
You can't add resolution to a recording made in 16 bit (or less) by resampling it to higher bit rates. Even if one prefers the sound. The added data is an interpolation and made up - added after the event/recording.
If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the music that audiophiles buy was recorded onto analogue reel-to-reel tape. What is the typical S-to-N ration of those classic machines? What is the equivalent audio bit depth? And how about realistic and achievable levels of S-to-N in the home, or perceived dynamic range?
So it is quite valid to assume an alternative approach to fidelity - that of delivering musical digitally with the least amount of computation applied to the data stream as possible, in an effort to retain as much of the original event (and the subtlest audio features) as possible. The more one fiddles with the data stream, the further away one travels from the performance.
Just my experience. [Flame suit on].
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Hey Big J,
I hear what you're saying. Still the Rolling Stones "Let it Bleed" in DSD sounds awesome. Like it's the master tape. That's not hyperbole.
For releases recorded more recently. The Beck albums on DSD and 24/192 sound incredible. I would love to know how they were recorded. I've never heard that kind of resolution come out of my speakers before, ever. YMMV.
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Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
Opinions can't be measured, but we can all agree/disagree with one another without being wrong or right (except in our own brains, unless under dictatorship).
Frihed I agree with you to an extent. I shouldn't post from work where I'm wound up. It's a hobby, and I don't like hassling anybody, but in a way you said it better yourself;> "Switching from EI to HiB double C-cores makes a world of difference to my ears. I have heard this on: Meishu vs Meishu Silver, OTO SE vs. OTO SE Signature, Conqueror vs. Conqueror Silver. This step makes everything sound both more real and engaging."
Now what if you a transformer winder, who because of his tool choices can't make a c-core, come on here and say, "There is no benefit to a HiB double C-core."
It would make you wonder right?
I wish Mr. Qvortrup the best of luck with his upcoming dacs. I'm sure they will be very good sounding, and hope we do see some progress, whether it's in a straight line or not.
Jamie
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Edits: 08/26/15
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