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In Reply to: RE: Elrog 300B posted by alexz on January 25, 2015 at 11:13:03
If the ER300b uses a 5 volt filament and only draws 1.2 amps (same as a regular 300b) then it's no surprise that it outputs less power.
As far as I know a thoriated tungsten filament requires a lot more heat than a coated filament to produce the same amount of electron emissions.
I don't see how that can happen with the same wattage (5 X 1.2 = 6 watts) of both filaments.
Maybe I'm misinformed about the filament current draw of the ER300b.
Tre'
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Follow Ups:
Yes, ER300B filament draws 1.2A.
Yes, a thoriated tungsten filament runs at much higher temperature then a couted.
Both filaments have the same energy consumption.
Where is the connection to the output power of the tube ?
I don't see how the filament can be running at a higher temp with both filaments having the same energy consumption?
I could be totally wrong but do you see what I mean?
6 watts is 6 watts. Both are dissipating 6 watts.
There must be something I'm not getting.
Tre'
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6 watt light bulb
6 watt infrared heaterAlso, please note that ER has 85ma current at -77v ug and 350v Ua.
Whould you agree that there is connection between emission and anode current ?
Edits: 01/31/15 01/31/15 01/31/15
I was confused. I thought you said Ug ~-75v, Ia ~85ma, Ua 425v
Tre'
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Tube is cathode biased with 900ohm resistor. That is in one of the posts.
If you are after precise nubers, here they are:
Anode 427v
Cathode 77v
427-77 =350v Ua
77/900=85.5555 ma Ia
Ug is -77v in relation to cathode
Is it still confusing ?
No. Not that part.
But more heat (and more light) from the filament, being produced by the same total input power at the same frequency, is confusing to me. Then again, I don't understand these things all the well. As you point out, the tube has plenty of emission.
Tre'
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You can make any temperature with any wattage by choosing the wire size. Thus there are 7-watt light bulbs (drawing about 1.2A at 6.3v). They operate at the same temperature as 100-watt bulbs, just more surface area to make more light.
The issue is that the maximum emissivity of tungsten is much lower than oxide filaments. No one is saying what strategies Dr. Elrog is using, but there are several available.
Now it is my turn to get confused:
Is it tungsten filament containing thoria to get high emission ?
Or is it tungsten filament coated with Th02 for stability ?
Edits: 02/01/15
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But if we use a different wire size then won't that draw a different current? We can adjust the voltage to keep the wattage the same but I though we are stuck here with 5 volts and 1.2 amps? (and, I would assume to some extent, surface area)
Anyway, if it works, it works.
I wonder why the lower audio output power?
Tre'
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