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In Reply to: RE: Joe Bonamassa worth a listen. posted by Con-fusion on June 27, 2009 at 17:54:29
Got Live from nowhere in particular on a recommendation. I truly thought he was a Warren Haynes wanna-be after a couple of listens, but just not as tasty or original. He seems to just recreate standard licks and doesn't do much in a new and creative way.
I really don't get the hype around him.
BobA gentleman is best defined as someone who knows how to play the accordion ... and doesn't.
But I do recognize his talent.
My problem (and it's not Joe's or any other of the new breed of bluesmen) is that the blues pretty much stopped being viable for me when Muddy died. Once the blues emerged too far from the cotton fields, it ceased to have the urgency and pain that I associate with the best of the blues music, and I lost interest. That may sound racist; I'm not.
The last blues guitarist to impress me was Dr Joel Foy who played on that James Harman CD "Do Not Disturb". Joe B is a fine player, no question. He just doesn't move me. I still listen to Greeny and Bloomfield and the old guys - in fact, there is a running joke that I only listen to bluesmen who are dead :) - and I think blues is the only genre of music that I selfishly do *not* want to grow and evolve. Each time it has, it has moved further away from what made it so much a part of life. Give me one note from Little Walter that stops my breath for a second over someone wanking up and down the blues scale any day.
This is not meant to belittle anyone's music or what they enjoy. As I said, this is my own personal issue. Joe's a good player and deserves his following.
I can appreciate what you are saying. I am enjoying the cd's I picked up very much but to me they aren't just blues. At times it's almost like head banger music but I do enjoy some of the picking.
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I mean, that you can enjoy it for what it is. Some people might refer to me as a "blues purist" but "blues regressionist" might be more correct. Overall I think it's fine for the blues to progress as other musics do - I just don't happen to enjoy the progression. Even the more "recent" blues I enjoy... first 2 Fab T-Birds records, some James Harman, Rod Piazza, Gordon Bonham... is in an earlier blues style.
I'm pretty well stuck in the 1920's through the 1970's. Good thing those decades produced a good quantity.
conviction. Life is too short not to know where you want to be.
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I have to respectfully disagree here. As limited as the blues scale is I think Joe does an admirable job of adding new twists to a well walked path.
Maybe a deeper listen into the music is required and some of these will become apparent. Funny how I never here this sort of critique of BB King, probably the most jaded blues player ever imho.
"I like blood on the floor jazz"
JM
Apparently I'm hearing a lot more creativity from Joe than you are, but it's all a matter of personal preference; for me his technique is second to none as a blues virtuaoso (and his Top 25 blues charted albums will bear this out), but I'll admit to subjective bias because he is a friend.I like his original compositions, but when pushed his interpretations of other musician's songs are often better than the original. Example: Tom Wait's "Jockey Full of Bourbon", an unusual choice that was recommended by Joe's producer. As interpreted by Joe Bonamassa on his most recent album this is THE best version of that song that I've ever heard (I've listened to Wait's jaunty caribbean styled version and it does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever, but Joe's disparate interpretation is genuinely creepy)! The moody calliope sounds Joe's keyboard player unleashes weave in and out and will stick with you; it's the most haunting song I've heard in years, and the electric guitar hook that Joe employs on that track actually hones Wait's Jamaican rhythms down to a sharp point that stabs again and again!
> > > "He seems to just recreate standard licks and doesn't do much in a new and creative way." < < <
It has been said that there are only seven plots in literature; my wife has had over 30 novels published. Go figure! ;O)
Seriously, I'm not trying to sell you on Joe's blues technique if his style isn't your taste, but I beg to differ with you about the caliber of his talent and your assertion about hype. His abilities are anything BUT mediocre and his peers (and elder blues-men) readily acknowledge his expertise.
Respectfully,
AuPh
Edits: 06/30/09
of his music. Glad it was recommended!
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