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In Reply to: RE: Levels of knowledge about cables posted by mike1127 on June 25, 2009 at 20:55:32
>And what happened was that I had similar impressions as I do sighted.<
Yes... just not each time in my case. But enough times to convince everyone involved.
>The only glitch was that I somewhat stupidly forgot to listen sighted (in a critical fashion) to either cable ahead of time!<
Then I'm not sure what your point was in testing. You just assumed you'd hear a difference blind even though you didn't try them sighted?
>If I felt like I was just plain guessing, I would be hesitant to conclude the difference is real,<
I guessed on a few trials but I notate when I'm not sure so I can backtrack and see what my mood was like, etc (I do my trials long term - 1 trial over the course of an evening) to see what happened. My guesses are almost always wrong.
>So the third level is a rigorous study that can be peer-reviewed and accepted by the scientific community.<
(snicker) - Good luck with that one! :)
At any rate, I'll be interested to see your results. There have been many positive blind tests on cables but also a lot of negative ones. I do not expect to be able to tell all cables apart. Indeed, many of them show no sonic differences to me even in sighted auditions.
> > The only glitch was that I somewhat stupidly forgot to listen sighted (in a critical fashion) to either cable ahead of time! < <
> Then I'm not sure what your point was in testing. You just assumed you'd hear a difference blind even though you didn't try them sighted? <
I did try them sighted, but not critically. In other words, I had the Cardas cable hooked up at one point, and at one point I had tried the Radio Shack. I was hardly even paying attention. For some reason, this made me sure they were different. They were very different, actually, but the Cardas cable was terrible. I suspect it's counterfeit. I got it from Audiogon.
> They were very different, actually, but the Cardas cable was terrible. I suspect it's counterfeit. I got it from Audiogon. <
I think you said the Cardas rolled off the treble. Some of them are designed to do that very thing but I can't recall which model(s). Seems to me one of them was a fairly low cost model (for Cardas) but there may be others. At any rate, it may be the real deal.
This cable is the Cardas Neutral Reference. I borrowed a Neutral Reference from the local dealer---same make model and length---and they sound nothing alike. The dealer's sounds gorgeous and high-resolution; the one I bought from Audiogon is extremely rolled-off, vague, fuzzy.
Ok, you're right, then. I used to own Neutral Ref and it was a killer cable - not rolled off at all.
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