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Richard BassNut Greene

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In Reply to: Umm.... posted by kerr on October 20, 2006 at 04:23:00:

Where are the witnesses to TubeNut's hearing ability claims?
Where is even one witness?
Where are test results for even one test without witnesses?
A single-blind A-B interconnect or AC cord comparison could be done in one hour, with one helper, at no cost. The results could be reported here with five minutes of typing -- maybe ten minutes for TubeNut.
Offering up your home for a demonstration is proof of nothing.
Proof requires completed testing with positive results.
Not a future test.
A completed test.
Even then there would be a small probability of lucky guessing.
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Richard BassNut Greene
My Stereo is MUCH BETTER than Your Stereo

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LYING RBG - thetubeguy1954 08:51:13 10/20/06 (5)
Realtime BS Generator,
You are a LIAR! You ask, Where are the witnesses to TubeNut's hearing ability claims? Where is even one witness?
You know the answer because I've told you. In fact I've answered this question more than once:
1) My friends in Conn witnessed my "hearing abilities"
2) People in CFAS (Central Florida Audio Society witnessed my "hearing abilities" as well!
You know this RBG, but just won't accept it. It's not "GOOD ENOUGH" for you. That's precisely why I have offered to PROVIDE PROOF PERSONALLY for you. I thought maybe seeing is believing, but I doubt that would even convince you. You don't want the truth, you want to be right (even if you aren't)
Now being the Realtime BS Generator you LIE again! You claim "A single-blind A-B interconnect or AC cord comparison could be done in one hour, with one helper, at no cost. The results could be reported here with five minutes of typing -- maybe ten minutes for TubeNut."
I've done it and passed here it is in print for RBG to see, if he ever claims again I haven't answered this question it will be yet another LIE!
Now as far as these comments are concerned:
A) Offering up your home for a demonstration is proof of nothing. (It's proof, Realtime BS Generator, you haven't got the guts to learn the truth.)
B) Proof requires completed testing with positive results. (Been there, done that, even have a T-Shirt that says so!)
C) Not a future test. (A future would teach you the truth and hopefully stop all your LIES! Like I said, you are a LIAR!)
4) A completed test. (See 1 & 2 above)
5) Even then there would be a small probability of lucky guessing. (Typical Offical Lunatic Fringe Objectivist trump card! If there is a real differnece heard it's because 1) they guessed, 2) the wire's faulty or 3) the component's faulty. ANYTHING but the possibility that LYING RBG is wrong! At least now we know for sure you are a LIAR!
Thetubeguy1954
- Still one man's claims as "proof" -- are all the alleged witnesses to your claimed extraordinary hearing skills dead? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:29:02 10/20/06 (4)
  No data
  No witnesses.
  = No test done.
  I rest my case.
  R. BassNut "Perry Mason" Greene
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  Richard BassNut Greene
  My Stereo is MUCH BETTER than Your Stereo
  - Ranting RBG (((Kerr Read This))) - thetubeguy1954 09:46:55 10/20/06 (3)
    As I told everyone numerous times there can NEVER be sufficient proof for RBG. He asked for witnesses & I provided them, he's asked for data in the past & I provided it!'
    Yet my proof is ALWAYS "alleged" in RBG's eyes. I guess when you can LIE as easily as the Realtime BS Generator does you assume everyone else is as well.
    You have no case to rest you ponce, you don't even look at the evidence. Here's the actual facts:
    1) You won't accept an previous tests I've done.
    2) You won't accept any witnesses I provide.
    3) You won't come so I can demonstrate it for you in person.
    You are just a Lunatic Fringe Objectivist who doesn't want to know the truth, but would rather apppear to be correct, even when you are wrong. I rest me case which at least I can prove.
    Thetubeguy1954
    - Please make up your mind -- Am I ranting or am I lying or am I ranting AND lying -- people want to know - Richard BassNut Greene 12:44:23 10/21/06 (2)
      You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
      Honest people rarely argue and attack characters as much as you do.
      If you have demonstrated positive results with double blind wire tests in front of witnesses (beyond one wire playing louder than another), then you may be the only person in the world with these results.
      Sorry, but your attempt to persuade me just was not effective. That doesn't mean you're lying, it just means you have never presented enough evidence (a witness who confirms your skills, the name of someone else who had similar results, or at least test data) to make your claim believable.
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      Richard BassNut Greene
      My Stereo is MUCH BETTER than Your Stereo
      - You Are Both - thetubeguy1954 17:49:19 10/21/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Please make up your mind -- Am I ranting or am I lying or am I ranting AND lying -- people want to know posted by Richard BassNut Greene on October 21, 2006 at 12:44:23:
        
        RBG, you LIE in your rants, so you are both! In fact you're also RBG=Realtime BS Generator as well, so you are all 3!
        FYI Honest people rarely LIE argue and attack characters as much as you do! And you are 100% correct I am not lying. I have in fact, presented YOU enough evidence (members of CFAS as witnesses who confirms my skills, I've given you the name of someone (my friend Rick and Mike) else who had similar results etc. So yes you are LYING, you just refuse to accept what I present, there's HUGE difference between those two things.
        My many attempts to persuade you are not effective because you don't want the truth, you want to appear to be correct, even when you are wrong, period!
        You also LIE when you tell everyone I DEMAND you come to FLA. I have offered you the hospitality of my home, so you could, if you so choose, witness personally my hearing abilities. Yet you LIE time after time telling people here I DEMAND you come. Please provide one link to any post where I DEMANDED rather than offered for you to come to FLA, LIAR!
        Thetubeguy1954
        
        Thetubeguy1954
        
        Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but everyone is not entitled to his own facts - Richard BassNut Greene 08:22:32 10/23/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: You Are Both posted by thetubeguy1954 on October 21, 2006 at 17:49:19:
        
        Your ability to hear differences among wires under blind conditions is your opinion.
        Whether that ability is a fact is open to debate.
        If a fact, you would be the ONLY person in the world who has demonstrated to witnesses an ability to differentiate between two wires playing music at the same SPL under double-blind conditions.
        
        Since you would be the only (public) member of this exclusive "WireNut with scientific proof Club", others are entitled to question your claims.
        At first your claims were ONLY supported by boastful invitations to your home to demonstrate your claimed skills .. with absolutely NO mention of any prior blind test experience, much less positive results during blind tests.
        Later you suddenly claimed to have had positive results during blind tests.
        But even now, dozens of character attack posts later, you still have never provided ANY relevant blind test details, even such basics as what brand/model wires you compared, whether any A-B volume matching was done or even attempted or even how many A-B trials were done.
        In fact, you've provided NO blind experiment design detail at all.
        Last, but certainly not least, you've never mentioned the percentage of your A-B trials that had correct answers!
        All we reslly know is you make claims about having exceptional hearing ability (the ability to differentiate among wires under blind conditions, when no one else in the world has proven that skill to witnesses) and you later claimed there were witnesses (you never mentioned witnesses in your earliest posts on the subject).
        None of these alleged witnesses have ever revealed themselves, nor have your extraordinary hearing ability claims been documented in any audio club newsletter. I would think your claims, if real, would have deserved a front page article in an audio club newletter!
        Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
        Or at least SOME proof ...
        beyond "I know what I hear".
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        Richard BassNut Greene
        My Stereo is MUCH BETTER than Your Stereo

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