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In Reply to: Re: In the home? Neither. posted by edta on April 16, 2004 at 14:41:14:
Over there a 92dB/SPL speaker is referred to as a toy.Your most economical choices for high-efficiency (96dB and higher SPL/watt) are either vintage Klipsch or Altec, Fostex kits from Madisound amongst others, and both finished speakers and kits by Pi Speakers.
Stay away from pro-sound speakers for the home; inexpensive models don't sound good, and those that have hi-fi specs aren't cheap.
As for high end $2k plus 'audiophile' speakers, very few are high SPL. Most are just high hype.
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Its not a macho thing for me, just want something I can enjoy with my Pass Aleph at 30 wpc. I was considering that Fostex kit. Don't want to be the first to try it, though. PI I know nothing about. Do they make their own drivers or just the cabs?Your comment about the higher priced speakers is discouraging. I have seen where Altec is now producing a copy of the A7, but they are 10 Grand. I think Van Shweikert and Pass are also producing high effic. speakers, but again very high priced. Total hype? Dunno, but way above what I will pay at this time.
Thanks for the advice.
Fostex drivers are nice but frankly I don't care for their cabinet designs, trying to squeeze too much into too small a space (Japanese market demands). They make the drivers, you're on your own with the cabs. However, if high SPL is what you want there aren't that many choices out there.The new A7 at $10K is silly. Get one on EBay for a tenth that price at best.
There is precious little about any speakers above $2k each to justify their prices; check them out closely and you find they still only use at the most $300 worth of drivers.
Have you checked out the Pi site? Good stuff at reasonable prices.
Pi site: I looked at it. Have some question about where to begin. I'm used to fairly good sounding class b stuff. I'm not at all familiar with the drivers they use.You mentioned the A7. That is a speaker I'm familiar with and like, somewhat. What speaker system in the Pi lineup is comparable to an A7. Just as a reference point.
High Efficiency forum is interesting. Most times I got on there I received answers that indicated DIY. I'm not a carpenter, and I have no experience soldering PC boards. Also speaker drivers were mentioned that I'd never heard of.
I don't own a Pi so I can't speak from experience; better to talk with those who do.Pi uses for the most part Eminence drivers in their price point boxes and JBL in the premium models.
High-efficiency is probably about 80% DIY as the cabinetry is involved and high labor costs is one reason that the industry has gone away from there. Most of the drivers you see used for them you won't see in garden variety speakers, for the same reason you don't see V12's in Toyotas.
I was considering that Fostex kit. Don't want to be the first to try it, though. PI I know nothing about. Do they make their own drivers or just the cabs?Your comment about the higher priced speakers is discouraging. I have seen where Altec is now producing a copy of the A7, but they are 10 Grand. I think Van Shweikert and Pass are also producing high effic. speakers, but again very high priced. Total hype? Dunno, but way above what I will pay at this time.
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