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Mike Freeland has got it down. He's the sound man for the 11-piece Maynard Ferguson Big Bop Nouveau Band. I've heard the band 3 times in the past two years. Same sound man, same system, different venues.All three times, the sound was near-perfect: well balanced, not too loud, with great fidelity, punchy bass, sizzling highs, present midrange, in venues up to 1000 seats. All this with two Mackie columns and two subs.
Which raises the question: Why do so many bands feel that they have to have huge and heavy PAs for typical nightclub gigs? Sure, a lot of bands want chest-thumping bass, which requires some muscle below about 200 Hz, but beyond that, it really doesn't take a lot equipment to fill a room with sound. Especially in these days of high gas prices, you'd think that more club bands would be interested in lightening their load. Using appropriate equipment and using it effectively still seems to elude a lot of bands. Is it lack of knowledge of what they need, or is it the "my PA is bigger than your PA" syndrome, or what?
I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts.
Dave
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totally right on guys! i saw this band and a similar setup in Kearney nebraska about two years ago? i think. anyway.....it was awsome
i wish more pa idiots would learn how to use there equipment properly.
I know two pretty good local soundmen.....the only stupid thing is they both use systems big enough to run an outdoor event with in a club of 200........then they complain they don't have enough power from the outlets etc? what? why do you need .....not joking here......10k watts rms to play a 250 seat club? this guy will not go anywhere without his monster pa ........oh well, back in the old days they wouldn't have had a choice!lol one of the best clubs i've ever seen had two of those 70s peavey horn systems with one small sub......probably a 300 seat club...and they ran like a 12 channel small board and a couple hundred watts.....best club sound i've ever heard bar none! anyway.....i'll quit ranting!
later,
Konrad
In my experience, the problem comes down to the fact that while many people know how to push faders and twiddle knobs, there are too few who have also discovered how to get it all to work together synergistically. Those who can do it either followed how someone else did it, or they persisted through to the realization that ultimately they themselves were the ones who had the greatest influence on the sound, not the gear.All those who have yet to attain this realization continue to chase their own tails because they usually believe that they themselves are perfect and everything else is the problem. Find a humble sound guy and you've found the first most important key to good sound.
I've seen bands in 200 seat rooms with PA sufficient for 2,000 seat rooms. I think the technical term to describe why they do so is 'delusions of grandeur', although stupid works just as well.
...I listen to classical music, film scores, choral, jazz. My wife and I go to the symphony in my medium sized mid westerm USA town. We have a new performing arts center. We have taken in a number of the traveling shows and acts and it seems that the sound is the worse component of going. It also seems that each band or act has their own equipment and sound man who strives wholeheartedly to say "to hell" with the hall acoustics or so it's my observation. The hall sound system is always off. I also have never heard movie theatre sound so horrible. I think they are trying to do too much. They are trying to reproduce down to 20 hz which is a JOKE. Amps clip trying to do this. So we get distortion. Back when RCA and WESTREX had control over the theaters, we had better sound. The bass horns would seldom go below 40 hz, but they could be driven with one watt to ear splitting volumes. I remember seeing HOW THE WEST WAS WON at a WESTREX equipped Cinerama theatre in Atlanta. Best sound I have ever heard. And not loud, just very realistic, No wall shaking, No distortion. That which is new is not necessarily better! Ray Hughes
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Skunk-bear, carcajou, bloodthirsty
Non-survivor.
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