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In Reply to: RE: Need Device Manager & XP Mode Working After Tweaks posted by jackwong96 on December 03, 2011 at 09:53:23
Restore back reg.exe from Mihaylov's list to system32 & u will be able to get back to Xp mode..
I have sent my new updated batches today to u & all others.
Device manager needs a lot more files to work. We had given up device manager somewhere mid-way while doing the steppes. What do u need it for??
Junaid
Follow Ups:
Thanks. I have not executed Mihaylov's list yet as I have problem with them earlier. I checked and found Reg.exe in bat.15. I'll redo to see what will happen. I need Device manager as I want to use a master copy to install on different computers(my friends'). If this can't be done, I'll have to do fresh installations.About these tweaks, should we apply them all directly to the trimmed Nlite XP? I ask this question because on reaching bat.16 I can hear changes in SQ, I'm not sure it's improvements or changes and I need to compare carefully.
Highly appreciate what you are doing for the community. If our ultimate goal is to trim down XP to the smallest possible, I think it would be more effective to do it the other way round(if and only if we know what files should be kept and what should be deleted. Instead of deleting huge number of files, create a bat file to save all files that are required for CMP to work good(using another computer), delete the rest from C drive and put what we have saved earlier back in. Just an idea. Don't whether this will work better or not.
And in order to streamline what you guys are doing right now with different versions of XP Pro, a master copy should be used by all. Your Nlite ISO image is good for this purpose but I can't use it because it hasn't got Chinese language in it. I created my own Nlite XP but can't make it to 89mb, mine is 107 mb. Can you upload one without deleting the languages?
Edits: 12/03/11 12/03/11 12/03/11 12/03/11
I think this '...And in order to streamline what you guys are doing right now with different versions of XP Pro, a master copy should be used by all...' is a great idea!!
I think this '...And in order to streamline what you guys are doing right now with different versions of XP Pro, a master copy should be used by all...' is a great idea!!(nb: this is not a reflection on theob, just a convenient place to post this observation)
Gentlemen (and Ladies, should any be reading...),
It's one thing to talk about tinkering with Microsoft's XP product - and the many ways to bend it to our very particular needs - but it strikes me as an Invitation To Trouble for our "community" to openly circulate a copy of the OS.
How long before the Microsoft Police pull up in their virtual squad car, and issue a Cease and Desist order, brandishing words like "bootleg", "pirate" and "lawsuit" ?
There can be no valid objection to sharing the method for creating your own nLited XP install (from your own copy of XP), but passing around a live install disk (or ISO image) goes against that "terms of use" thing we never read.
By using the same "Last Session.ini" parameter file in nLite, we can each generate "the same" install from our individually held sources - conceptually at least. Minor variations may arise due to different language editions and/or service pack updates.
Just an observation. Let the fun continue.
Cheers,
Grant
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
Edits: 12/04/11
Ho gwjaudio,Why would Microsoft care?
As long as you have paid for a license too use XP, its fine.
(so no damage too potential turnover)Microsoft should better not put energy in alienating more customers.
They better put energy in making a better next generation operating software.
Windows 7 is still a little less flimsy Vista version in disguise.
Hope they do a (much!) better job with Windows 8.
As for me, it is far from sure that I will run Windows 8 on my next computer.
Nowadays Linux distro’s (from Ubuntu, Mint, Suse, etc) work instantly flawless right out of the box on the very latest (!!) hardware.
And also Apple is growing every year.
The only thing keeping me from Linux right now is lack of good high quality drivers for pro audio soundcards.Mark
fully optimized cMP2 PC -> ESI Juli@ -> Van den Hul Optocoupler MkII-> Lavry Black DA10 -> XLR Mogami Gold -> Klein & Hummel O300
Edits: 12/04/11
Hi Mark
I agree with all of your observations on Microsoft.
That doesn't change the fact that their business model relies on a license fee for every installed copy of their product (in this case XP). If the MS Auditor were to find the same serial number on 10 different cMP machines, I doubt the response would be "Move along, and Have a Nice Day".
To be openly posting what is in effect "Git yer free Windows XP Pro here..." cannot reflect well on our very well-meaning group effort. Far too easy to twist the facts into something "illegal", and bring dishonour to an exemplary piece of open-source cooperation.
By now, web-bots have no doubt informed their masters of the transgression. It remains to be seen if the imminent sun-setting of XP support pushes us off their priority list.
That's all for this topic. Let's be careful not to attract the wrong kind of attention to the cMp/cPlay Project. Amen.
Cheers,
Grant
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
to suit your own purposes.
Excellent point, Grant.
(sorry I missed you call)
It would be quite simple to change slightly the ISO nLite master file.
Jolida needs to upload his "Last Session.ini" file from nLite XP.
With such file, combined with your own XP master disc, you can make a new ISO file slipstreaming Chinese language, drivers and so on...
U want to integrate Chinese language support in the disc ? I will upload it in while. It's 3.am now. Will do it in the morning. Do u want just the ini file or do u want me to slipstream Chinese into the ISO & upload it again? Either way is fine with me..
Junaid
Not the .ini file, to be useful to me I need Chinese Traditional and Simplified included in your Nlite image. My XP SP2 is of a different built from yours and the size is different after trimming. I suggest the Languages should be left intact so that inmates and select on their own.
Had thought of that idea a few weeks ago. I guess it's gonna end up likewise, as the batches have been made already. If they were not, then a reverse gear would have taken us ahead..!!
Try to ascertain if u like the sound after step 16. As u said, & as I have put it many a times, a change need not always be an improvement. Listen to a lot of familiar recordings to analyse what's happened. Once u install nLite & cics optimise it, take a back-up, before u proceed with deletions or touch the registry. Always helps to get back to where u started. With back-ups & batch files handy, u don't have anything to lose, except some time, but it's worth experimenting to ooze the utmost potential out of Ur system on a software-level.
My recent nLite install has totally changed the performance of my cMp. The best I've heard in a long time, even without the deletions done. I intend to proceed slow & listen a lot more at each stage, to ascertain the improvement each steppe makes. I guess it's high time we finalise what's to be removed & what to be left in..
Steppe (serge) has done a remarkable job throughout, & set a benchmark in the history of cMp. Absolutely stunning work, & we all appreciate his efforts.
What u like & what u don't also depends on Ur entire set-up as well as Ur listening taste. Some like a very laid-back sound, some like it Live with lots of energy. So one tweak may sound quite the opposite to another. As I said, take Ur time & analyse, & take a back up at every stage which has made a pleasant change to u..
Afterall, it's all about what sounds best to You..!!
Junaid
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