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In Reply to: RE: Theory vs Practicals... posted by Jolida on October 17, 2011 at 11:55:34
In the process of getting back to musicality, I had restored and compared the followings:
1. steppe 5 complete
2. steppe 5 partial (up to step j)
3. steppe/jolida 4.6 (steppe 4 + 2 batches of files from Jolida), and
4. steppe/jolida 4.5 (steppe 4 + 1st batch of files from Jolida)
Item number 3 (steppe/jolida 4.6) is the best: bass, definition, sound stage--just play a live recording and you'll see-- and dynamics.
If you are now on steppe 5 (riboge?) may be a tiny step back?
KC
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step 5 to what you call step 4.6 for an hour or so: I find not a lot of difference although with some music I hear a bit fuller bass with 4.6. On the other hand, with some things 5 has more presence and realness. This may be related to what others call "air" or "liquidness" though those are terms I can't easily relate to. Sometimes I get the impression there might be a volume effect, i.e., that the music is a bit louder with 5 though I change nothing switching between them but them. I'll keep comparing.
Jolida is making it clear, if it wasn't already, that so many factors make a difference and that different combinations of cPlay settings, step version or individual item changes, etc, can 'synergize' to reverse or alter these differences for any one system--to say nothing of different systems with different rooms and equipment, etc--that it is like chasing your tail trying to pin down what is best generally or in any linear incremental way.
For instance, I am using network versions of all. That makes a considerable difference in step 5 in terms of reducing the number of .sys .dll and registry entries eliminated. Wouldn't one expect that network 5 and non-network 5 would sound different? Which were you using in finding 4.6 best?
In my system (no network, USB-> battery powered USB isolator-> Devilsound dac) 4.6 and 5.5 (steppe 5 up to step j) have the same audio characteristics--analog like and realistic human voice, full bass etc. though the former has a bit more.
But the difference between 5.5 and the full steppe 5 treatment is huge. Yes, steppe 5 is clean, sharp, and the sonic image well defined with a spacious sound stage, but it does not sound natural, esp. the human voice, and the bass is too lean. I come to this conclusion by playing Van Morrison's "It's Too Late to Sop Now" though I guess any good live recording will do. VM,s record has mainly acoustic instruments (voice, horns, strings) and a lot of space information. With the complete steppe 5, the natural acoustic space just collapsed and the horn and human voice very unnatural and artificial.
KC
I'll work on it and let you know what results for me.
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