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In Reply to: RE: new tweaks part 12 posted by steppe on October 01, 2011 at 04:05:36
Hello, everybody. This is part 13, and this is what I propose to do:
Find and remove:
aaaamon.dll aclui.dll shgina.dll shimeng.dll shimgvw.dll shscrap.dll shsvcs.dll slayerxp.dll
snmpapi.dll snmpsnap.dll stobject.dll tapi32.dll ufat.dll ulib.dll umandlg.dll ver.dll winnls.dll
wlnotify.dll wmi.dll wmiscmgr.dll wow32.dll wsnmp32.dll wtsapi32.dll wzcsapi.dll wzcsvc.dll
xactsrv.dll xcopy.exe
Reboot and listen to some music.
Serge.
P.S. You might have noticed that after you have just removed several files, windows is rebooting slowly at first. This is very good. It means, that big changes in sq are going to happen. Though the resolution increases, it may sound sharp or brittle or sybilant for some time.
Check your mouse, keyboard, search function, notepad and explorer. Everything should work.
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Hello, everybody. This is part 14, and this is what I propose to do:
Find and remove:
dmview.ocx msscript.ocx asr_ldm.exe bootcfg.exe control.exe dllhost.exe dllhst3g.exe dmadmin.exe mountvol.exe pentnt.exe rsmsink.exe sprestrt.exe actxprxy.dll autodisc.dll browselc.dll
clb.dll clusapi.dll cnvfat.dll commdlg.dll compobj.dll dmocx.dll inetres.dll miglibnt.dll msvcrt20.dll netapi.dll OLECLI.DLL (from windows system, I think) xmlprovi.dll (yes, the file I told you about),
mediactr.cat NTPRINT.CAT prodspec.ini pschdprf.ini comm.drv AppEvent.Evt SecEvent.Evt SysEvent.Evt MSCTFIME.IME ntdos404.sys ntdos411.sys ntdos412.sys ntdos804.sys ntdos.sys
Please note, that in this series of files some are from windows root, some from windows-system, system32 and system32-config folders.
Reboot and listen to some music.
Serge.
Like before I needed to restore prodspec.ini and pschdprf.ini to get my asio drivers to inialize for cmp/cplay to work.Sonics (ims) are very good ... not sure its better than 11 but for me they are close. If 14 is not first in sonics it's pretty close so far.
Edits: 10/02/11
AND it is such a big file!
But, that is the way ti goes -
I wonder if someone could come up with a way to do without it?
Interesting that LYNX does not need it. Maybe time to consider trying one of those?
You are no longer able to use CONTROL PANEL are you? Not even with COMMAND LINE on mine.
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Hello, everybody. This is part 15, and this is what I propose to do:
Find and remove:
bootok.exe bootvrfy.exe dosx.exe grpconv.exe mmc.exe reg.exe regedt32.exe tasklist.exe taskman.exe taskmgr.exe (these files, or their absence won't affect the startup of cmp - read below *) dmconfig.dll dmserver.dll dsuiext.dll fde.dll inetcplc.dll input.dll
msgina.dll msvcrt40.dll mycomput.dll ntmsapi.dll ntmsdba.dll osuninst.dll regapi.dll resutils.dll rsaenh.dll ureg.dll Dcache.bin mib.bin oembios.bin appwiz.cpl bthprops.cpl firewall.cpl hdwwiz.cpl inetcpl.cpl intl.cpl ncpa.cpl nusrmgr.cpl nwc.cpl powercfg.cpl
sysdm.cpl timedate.cpl ega.cpi FNTCACHE.DAT oembios.dat secupd.dat compmgmt.msc devmgmt.msc dfrg.msc diskmgmt.msc fsmgmt.msc gpedit.msc lusrmgr.msc ntmsmgr.msc ntmsoprq.msc rsop.msc secpol.msc services.msc winoldap.mod chcp.com diskcomp.com diskcopy.com
edit.com format.com graftabl.com graphics.com kb16.com loadfix.com mode.com more.com tree.com win.com ieuinit.inf
Please note, that in this series of files some are from windows root, some from windows-system, system32 and system32-config folders.
Reboot and listen to some music.
* CMP doesn't react to the absence of taskmanager and loads perfectly. Also, I didn't remove taskill.exe. When I last saw task manager on startup, it showed:
Commit charge (before loading the library titles, but with cicsremote aborted - 20,444 mb, with remote - 22,496, no remote and 700+ titles loaded, OK pressed to close the diagnostics window - 25,628)
Serge.
P.S. Inmates, I know that some of you might have lost your usb flash drive capability. Please, find its dll. I am positively exhausted to return and "search" for it, besides, I don't need it, while other folks may.
Whew!! Finally reached all of 15...very very nice sonically. Talk about Stairway to Heaven this is 'Steppes to Heaven' afaic. I still have ability to invoke Explore from Cmp screen to load all my files into cmp (I use a folder to only hold a few dozen files in Cmp). Also along this journey I did not delete any exe or dll files with 'usb' or 'fat' phrases in them and I still have ability to transfer files from thumbdrive to cmp hd. I probably could delete some of these but for now I'll settle with what I have. I'm still mulling over how much of 16 I want to do...think I want keyboard functionality. I guess when I will need more hd's I'll reload an earlier version to do file management. I know I know I should have done a network.Thank you Serge, this a masterpiece. I cannot express how appreciative I am for all your hard work. If going from Steppe 7 to 15 was grueling (for a non-computer geek like me)I can not even imagine the work you put into this. Well done!!!
Edits: 10/03/11
Hello, everybody.
This is at last part 16.
You see, that it is extremely short.
Also, with all the tweaks from part 11-16 you will be bound to service sometimes your hdd from within another Windows computer or hdd with a copy of windows with all its functions intact.
I almost cannot find any more significant files that can be removed without a blue screen crash.
I will post here winspool.drv and some other files to be removed aside from the main bulk, but you should know that removing them you will have no keyboard, and no cmp.
However, I find that this extreme setup sounds better than cmp. Such is the reality (in my ears).
1.Safe to remove (cmp working): cmd.exe diskpart.exe fastfat.sys gdi.exe netui0.dll objsel.dll openfiles.exe parvdm.sys shell.dll shellstyle.dll shfolder.dll storage.dll storprop.dll vmmreg32.dll w32topl.dll
2. Unsafe to remove (no more cmp shell, no keyboard, no notepad to edit cue files):
winspool.drv (I don't know if it has anything in common with wispool.exe, but WHY would Cics need it, is a mystery)
KEYBOARD.DRV (from windows system)
kbdus.dll (last keyboard layout from system32)
kbdclass.sys (from system32-drivers)
olepro32.dll (from system 32) also necessary for cmp but not for cplay.
A very dirty file as all files from ole sh*tpack
OLESVR.DLL - another ole wonderkid.
Without these files cplay works fine. Moreover, it sounds standalone better than from within cmp but with dirty files in the system.
So it is a "controversy" about convenience versus better sound. Inmates, it is for you to decide, what is more important.
Also, there was a question if AWE still works. I guess it does, for cics warned that, if awe were ticked in the cplay dialogue
without the corresponding tweak, the player would exit. Mine doesn't.
Serge.
Went through steppe 16 (except for key board stuff and olepro32.dll and winspool.drv) and my initial thoughts were 'maybe a step too far' but I gave it time to see if I would get used to it but I couldn't. In anticipation of deleting olepro32 I wanted to see how much degredation I would get by 'not going through cmp' and running cplay naked and guess what ... I flatout preferred it. It is so pure in tone now that it is a whole new level ims. Cant wait to delete olepro32.dll now.
Edits: 10/03/11
Ok more feedback on sonics. I cant really say how cplay within or not within CMP mode may sound because I either have a fouled up cmp program file or I still don't implement it right but....I have gone the full monty Steppe 16 ...all keyboard stuff out along with olepro32 out, winspool out from Windows and system 32 and I'm drinking the coolaid! The Windows folder is down to 103 mb. What a difference these last few file deletions make. Seems as if music gets louder, more dynamic, less bright, tighter bass and bigger soundstage all around @ full 16. Interestingly if I leave winspool in Windows folder but not system 32 it changes the sonics. I don't want to overhype but it is real good.
This is crazy. Took out olepro32 and it was more transparent but after some time (a day or so) I concluded it was a bit too much. Put it back in and the slight hardness went away. Then I thought what the heck lets try taking winspool out along with olepro32 and voila no hardness and bass was back big time. So only thing left to try is the keyboard stuff and only God (and Steppe) know what that will sound like. I now believe there is a pattern here and that is to follow Steppe's order of deletions.
that you are so close to the pot of gold (at the end of the rainbow).
Though, I (still) do not think it makes much, if any, difference, in the order of deletion. I know with my nLite install there were lots of files "pre-deleted" for steps 1 through 16 (though I have not done it yet successfully). I have looked through and a few are not there even for 16.
I am very frustrated by my mis-step.
I would think it easy to go back and forth between keyboard and no keyboard. Just put those in a folder and re-install as needed. That is my plan. I did prefer using my keyboard to the mouse, though, so it will be a hardship. One wonders: can one do without the mouse and get the same effect or are the keyboard drivers "dirtier" than the mouse drivers?
(I would have no idea which files to delete for the mouse)
Hope to hearing what 16 can do in a few days.
Extra Urgent!!! Something is wrong on my side of internet, thus these crazy postings, inmates. Go to your bios setup, press control+F1 to load ehanced menues, get to advanced chipset features inside it - in my mobo only oe item concerning vga or video, sorry,inmates, print it by memory in terrible internet conditions. This settings allows for max or 256 or 128 mb. Set at first to 256 mb. reboot. If cmp works set it to 128 mb.
Hello, everybody.
Here is some info that may or may not interest you, still, I think it should be posted.
The very first time I have done some tweaking of cmp setup was in the times of cplay 1-14 or 1-15.
Some of you may remember, there was a very soffft version followed by first truly great versions 1-17 and 1-19. I had a cmp based on the first prescribed mobo - biostar with sb audigy 2 soundcard and asio4all.
I noticed how cics advocated reducing windows footprint, and it reminded me of freeing memory in DOS times to launch some ega game on my first 286 machine.
So, what the hell, I said to myself, why not try it here. I tried and stopped from msconfig Windows Time. It immediately reduced commit charge in task manager from 36,5-37 mb to 35 and the sq seemed slightly better. I reported it, but no one seemed to notice.
At approximately the same time I asked Cics, if he was going to do anything about "windows' beloved infant terrible" - OLE, but he did not respond. So, be it. I was happy with the way things had been developing with a fresh
cplay every weekend. Still it was nagging me, that so much difference became evident version after version, as if somebody was playing with a d*ned equalizzzer! Though I was sure Cics wouldn't do such thing. Why, then,
the difference is so evident? After I turned to using onboard Azahlea sound device, it seemed so good after soundblaster, that I stopped worrying at all for some more time. And then it happened - Cics stopped giving us
new versions, and here we all were, sitting on our chairs, doing nothing. It was about that time that I have returned home after spending practically 4 years in Moscow. I sold my business, there was nothing pressing for me to do here, but to build another cmp with all new prescribed components.
I did it, but even splendid Lynx soundcard did little to suffuse my disappointment, that there were no new versions. The rest about belgian monastic beer and first set of tweaks, you all know.
It wasn't all blind tweaking, especially from part 5 and onward, as I began to see how things work within the window frame, but, honestly, to a great extent, it was trial and error. With dozens and dozens reboots and crashes. And now we are here.
I know this set of tweaks isn't an elegant thing, moreover, I know how time consuming and dull it is, but the result is worth it, I hope. At least to me.
Some additional info:
Most important listening was done at night. I have a dedicated custom line (made by agreement with servicing company) from the common feeder on the ground floor, no other apartment is hoggin' it. I live on the fifth floor, so there is appr. 65 feet from the feeder to my apartment.
Inside the apartment there are three different lines. Good thick copper wiring from my Accuphase days. The room has splendid proportions, though small.
Hdd, cmp machine and speakers all sit on different lines (2 lines) and all on different wall plugs. Kids from apartment below me have a hatefull wi-fi router, that explains partly my night vigils - their dad makes them switch everything off. No other neibors above or to the side, so we may say that power is more or less clean.
I used for reference the following cd-rips from my library
David Byrn - Uh-Oh (a very well recorded pre-loudness war nonremaster edition with layer upon layer of natural instruments, clever electronics and heaps of percussion)
Diana Krall - Quiet Nights (do I have to comment on the level of sq and amount of tiniest details?)
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing and Fear Of A Blank Planet - charged and smart heavy progressive with very complex sound canvas and both albums terribly compressed. (original editions)
Fish - 13th Star - a Very strong album from former Marillion frontman, overproduced and compressed as sh*t, almost undecodable till the very end. Really, Mr. Dick had it severely overdone.
Robert Plant and The Strange Sensations - Mighty Rearranger (European original edition). Also a very strong album with very complex and varying sounscape. Tracks 2 and 7 still slightly grainy.
Bob Dylan - Slow Train Coming - who would have thought there is such an amount of splendid musicianship! A very difficult album, though seemingly an absolute simpleton and no-problem.
Alice Cooper - Welcome To My Nightmare - a real nightmare remaster probably because of some specific coinsidence of recording (mastering) scheme and a set of instruments. It is grainy.
Adriano celentano - Azzurro (1969) Wait, till mandolin sounds like a mandolin
Jethro Tull J-Tull Dot Com - not exactly difficult soundwise, but I like and know this album well.
Van Der Graaf Generator - Trisector. Beautiful sound, wonderful music, complex at times, but a real pearl. A treat for every serious listener.
That is all, inmates. I am exhausted, got a terrible cold and a high temperature, lost (burned) my flash drive in a public internet cafe, my 14-year old beloved kitty is terribly ill these days (she almost can't walk and feed anymore), I hate to listen to the sound of files. I want to make a break and listen to some sad songs.
Serge.
P.S. All said is within the IMHO frame, I am not away from the forum, I just want a break.
P.P.S. How about some beer and then to remove msconfig.exe?
You said ...'And then it happened - Cics stopped giving us
new versions, and here we all were, sitting on our chairs, doing nothing'...After the Steppe journey I don't think anyone will ever accuse you of sitting on your chair doing nothing. But I find it ironic that you love Dianne Krall and Bob Dylan while I love Arvo Part's symphony #3. Go figure!
Serge,
It is not true that having the button checked will make cMP crash if you have not implemented AWE. Makes no difference on my machine and I KNOW I do not have AWE implemented.
ONLY way to tell is from the DIAGNOSTICS. If it says AWE was used then it was. If it says nothing: no AWE.
Have got to #12 and can't wait to go further this evening.
Tried to do them all at once and it did not work out. Have to re-install all of those files and start over. Working fine now.
Thanks, again,
Hi steppe,
Thanks for all the hard works. Though I am still at steppe 5 (don't want to do the heavy lifting until I find a safe way to mirror my cMP partition in a dual boot system), I can see that there is a great deal to look forward to.
It is great to know that you are a music lover. But then everyone who is so deep in the tweaking game got to be one.
KC
and you are probably not anxious to give your address.
This adventure has been like a good novel. Unexpected twists and turns - cMP actually turning out to not be the ultimate set-up. Did you figure out how to remove what it was you mentioned around #5? Not that it matters; like I said like a good novel.
You must acknowledge our other Serge's recommendation for the setting in ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES. It is how he has his BIOS set-up on his cMP website.
I cannot wait to get to work on this. So I will get to work!
THANKS VERY MUCH,
What is the difference in ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES per Mihaylov?
I had been using it for awhile, though my 512mB memory will not work with this suggested settings, which has nothing to do with the first part of my sentence. That works very well.
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