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In Reply to: Re: An iPod Instead Of An Outboard DAC! posted by bobp on January 18, 2006 at 10:01:18:
I understand your point. However, I disagree that an iPod is a canoe! Sorry, but I don't believe that a $2K DAC sounds any better.
Read the review of the iPod on Stereo Review.
Regarding Jitter: "The overall result is superbly low, at 225 picoseconds peak-peak."
I bet the jitter is low since it basically runs of an integrated clock. However, as mentioned before the analog section seems to be a bit deficient. The stereophile review states that distortion is at -60db which means you got 10bit resolution before noise.
This is not uncommon for any of the portable players on the market. External DACs provide < -100db.
I am an Ipod user (lossless only). When it comes to pennypinching, I am all for it. I have tried so many tweaks, used vintage, tried unusual stuff originally not meant for audio.
However, there is a serious problem regarding use of Ipod as an audio source. The problem is in abysmally bad variable analog output and absence of analog line out. There are modders who do the surgery and leave an ugly dongle protruding from Ipod. And this is not cheap.
The other option is to hookup IPod to PC or XBOX360 and use digital outs from there. Perhaps there is an Onkyo receiver with USB input that can recognize Ipod, perhaps, I am not sure.
As of $2000 DACs, people vote with their wallets. I would never buy one. My digital setup is modest, the total cost is around $500.
For me, placing $400 60GB ipod instead of $600 600GB PC makes
no sense :-)
1. PC as storage device. Playback via JRiver MC10 software, ASIO driver selected.
2. external audio card (ESI Waveterminal 24)
3. glass toslink cable with mumbo-jumbo antivibration treatment
4. Panasonic XR-45 Class D receiver used in stereo only mode.
5. Power conditioning, hospital grade plugs and outlets, various tweaks and mods (mostly free).
6. Flexy stand
I guess that some folks with systems costing 20x that much would feel
plain stupid after hearing it. The entire system plays the way it has no right to play for $500, not even for $5000. The only drawback- no boasting power and reveals too many awfully mastered CDs.
Interesting system you have. I have a Panny XR50 but am currently using a Jolida 1501.
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