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In Reply to: RE: cMP - impossible with Cantatis - other solution... posted by Eunegis on April 10, 2011 at 09:20:08
My take on your dilemma is that you could get the lynx. I think the analog outs ARE good and know of at least one external dac that is double the price and doesnt sound as good.
It is all relative of course but you will need something to get spdif to a dac (usb can work but it isnt exactly meant for the cmp2 build though the usb section does help alot). The Lynx has a great sounding analog output for the money, and the digital out is stellar according to Gordon Rankin. So if you want to, you can later add an external dac.
Also you have been trying to fit a square piece into a round hole with the cantoris, and I know the lynx works and works well with what you are trying to do. You have already wasted time and caused yourself frustration by going down a less traveled path, maybe it is time to take one that works??
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Your point of view sounds reasonable indeed.
But before before shooting too fast again I'll try to collect some information now.
Your statement about Lynx' l22 analog outs sounds promising.
Are RME9632's multiple clock operation modi helpful in any way?
At the moment I'm in a discussion about asynchronous USB. But I don't really oversee that area so far. Have to find out about cMP's pitfalls concerning that first, then see if there are suitable soundcards at all (haven't seen USB on a soundcard yet, only Firewire). At least RME and Lynx both provide AES/EBU for clock synchro in the future, but AES/EBU-connected DACs are pricy, I believe.
I didn't expect it to become so complex at THAT point...
Maybe we shouldn't go too far right here and now. I think I'll start another thread for that when time is right.
Thanks a lot so far!
I hope I am not confusing you further, but your choices for an int. sound card are:
1) Lynx L22
2) RME 9632
3) E-MU 1212M PCIe
4) Asus Essence ST
5) ESI Juli@
3, 4 and 5 are not expensive. You can even buy 2nd hand.
So you can try and eventually change them in the future. 5 is inferior for analog.
Both 3 and 4 have solved the driver problems they had in the past.
If you choose 1616M, you have 3) with analog part outside.
Hi Bibo,
thanks for your clear statement.
That ist basically the ranking that seems to crystallize from the whole discussion I've had here and elswhere meanwhile.
Dawnrazor is strongly in favour of the expensive Lynx l22, and he's most likely right if I consider what I've heard so far and that he has tested it extensively himself.
At the moment I'm trying to decide if the RME 9632 (which is lying at my home unused) is really auditibly worse than the Lynx via analog out or if it might only have a different sonic personality. Spec-wise they are both pretty similar. Especially do both offer an AES/EBU connection for later perfect external clock synchro (if I've got it right) in case a DAC should ever come into my mind...
And from what I've heard RME's drivers should be okay. The RME obviously hasn't been used/tested as extensively as the Lynx, though.
YOu keep saying you have the rme just lying around.
why not give it a try??
And FWIW bibo01, Play-mate and myself have all used the lynx 2b which is a multichannel version of the l22 with a cmp2 setup. You can do better than the Lynx but if you think the Lynx is expensive, then wait till you see what better costs...
No one here remembers the bending of our minds
My list was not necessarily a ranking.I had both RME and Lynx. I preferred the second.
However, you pay a premium for 1 and 2 for added flexibility. 3 or 4 are also very good. You can also add an external DAC at a later date and use them digitally at maximum frequency.
PS: Leif (play-mate) was wrong, KS can be bit perfect in XP.
Edits: 04/10/11
Aha, all insiders over here... ;-)
WHAT did you like better (from your very personal, subjective point of view) in the Lynx than in the RME?
How do you realize bitperfekt kernelstreaming under XP? Is there anything specific to adjust?
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