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In Reply to: RE: cMP - the open source high-end Memory Player posted by cics on December 30, 2007 at 05:42:01
The other day I cranked up my cmp and started playing a track. I then noticed the bit rate wasn't what i wanted and tried to switch on the fly within Juli@ control panel which it did not accept. I exited out changed bit rate and reloaded the album from its folder. Upon trying to play a track the song got stuck in like super fast forward. Closed cmp then then got error when tried to open it back up, I think no asio drivers. Upon futher inspection Juli@ control panel and drivers dissappeared (version Juli@-x2v-v1_05).
Hoping I just need to reload the drivers but could use some assistance in my checklist.
"To change soundcard drivers you have to be out of minlogon, and these services have to be put on automatic and started: Event Log, Cryptographic Services, Windows Audio and WMI."
reference:
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/3/37661.html
I have one confusion.
CMP website under advance section 2 Replacing winlogon with minlogon says in step 3 section 7.
To reverse the change, rename winlogon.exe to winlogon.min and winlogon.bak to winlogon.exe and reboot
http://www.cicsmemoryplayer.com/index.php?n=CMP.ApdxBAdvanced
This conflicts with seger here
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/3/37665.html
1. Start button > Run - type regedit and click ok. Navigate to this location:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
2. Delete “Config” line for minlogon: (Right-click on Config and delete)
3. Rename winlogon.exe in system32 folder to minlogon.exe
4. Rename winlogon.exe.bak to winlogon.exe
5. Restart.
Could use some clarification since if I mess this up ya'll know what that means.
Do I rename winlogon.exe to winlogon.min or rename winlogon.exe to minlogon.exe
Do I rename winlogon.bak to winlogon.exe or rename winlogon.exe.bak to winlogon.exe
Also cmp website doesn't address removing config line
Brad
Follow Ups:
Do I rename winlogon.bak to winlogon.exe or rename winlogon.exe.bak to winlogon.exe
It depends what you renamed to what in the first place. The original (stock) winlogon.exe was renamed to something or other and minlogon.exe was copied to the folder and renamed winlogon.exe in its place. You need to reverse that.
That said, you may well be able to reload the driver without doing the above. I don't use the Jui@ card but this works for me:
Boot into XP Mode, re-enable the Windows Installer Service and try re-installing the driver. Turn the service off again when done.
Whether it works or not, you are most unlikely to damage anything and it won't take five minutes to try.
Now, if you'd made an imagefile of your OS partition, you'd have been up and running in the ten minutes it takes to restore the original.
Ah well. Next time, perhaps.
HTH
Ryelands, will give that a try tonight. ThanksNever did the image file to partition before except on my office pc with Windows 7. Windows 7 has this built into it's OS. What software would you recommend to image file a partition for XP?
Brad
Edits: 03/15/11
What software would you recommend to image file a partition for XP?
I've used something called snapshot.exe for years now but it's not one of the stalwarts. Theob tried it recently on my say-so and seemed to like it - he might be the better person to comment.
Many seem to like Acronis and I believe there's decent freeware around. I tried Norton Ghost many years ago and could not get on with it. It might be better now. Or it might not.
If you have a docking station, the whole exercise takes moments. Keep your imagefiles on a desktop PC, pop cMP^2's OS drive into the docking station and do the restore. I can't tell you how many complete rebuilds that setup has saved me.
Dave
I love snapshot...easiest to use and very effective. Highly recommended.
Edits: 03/16/11
It looks like I have a project for the weekend. Tried just Window Installer service with no luck so proceeded in removing other services and returning minlogon to winlogon. Upon reboot I found the reason I installed minlogon in the first place. Forgot about Window actitivation which of course now expired so couldn't get past the logon screen. I could get on in safe mode but couldn't install drivers from there.
Can't complain since it has been troble free now for well over a year. Just hope nothing is wrong with the sound card other than it's drivers. Anyone ever have a Juli@ card die, only mod to card is BNC out.
Lesson learned, Activate windows as soon as fresh OS is installed and make a image file of partion when done. Guys is this the right snapshop in the link below?
Brad
edit: after typing this I didn't think to try add new hardware in control panel in safe mode. Will give it a try tonight with fingers crossed.
there is a way to install new hardware from minlogon. do a search on cics authored posts on same subject. I think it is 'about' 2 years ago.
Edits: 03/16/11
Found reference see link
Don't recall seeing new device in device manager but will check again.
Brad
look again I think it shows a ? next to device.
whew!!! what a merry go around, hope I get this right. Short verision Is I'm back up and runnnig.Where I stopped I was not able to get past windows activation after changing minlogon to winlogon, except when using safe mode.
In safe mode device manager did not show Juli@. Installed drivers version 1.05 from jump drive manually from control panel-add hardware. Reboot into safe mode still no Juli@ in device manager and only partial file of drivers were in system32.
Decided to put winlogon back to minlogon, reboot. Windows loaded them got blue screen of death, oh oh. Searched error on net and determined hardware or drivers not being installed correctly may be the problem. Booted into safe mode and removed all Juli@ files from system32. Reboot, this got me back to where I had started. In xp with minlogon working and no Juli@ drivers.
Checked device manager, no Juli@(!). Decided to put new drivers on jump drive from Juli@ website.
http://download.esi-audio.com/?w=esi&p=6&g=1&l=en
Here's a kicker, I was using Juli@ version 1.05 with no problems. Website now says this driver is for windows vista, hmmm. It's been well over a year when installed that driver so don't recall how I originally used them.
Replaced version 1.05 on jump drive and downloaded latest Xp version 1.23 to jump drive. Tried to install 1.05 from control panel-add hadware and it would not recognize them. Tried 1.23 reboot and they installed correctly when checked system32. Device manager still does not show Juli@.
note: There are two files shown when trying to install drivers manually from control panel-add hardware, Juli@ control must be installed first.
I am now thinking Juli@ card or pci slot is bad. Deleted Juli@ files from system32 then moved card to other pci slot 2. Reinstalled 1.23, installed fine but still no Juli@ in device manager.
Now am convinced Juli@ card is bad. Put it back in slot 1 of pci then tried one last time installing version 1.23. Reboot, loaded fine but still no Juli@ in device manager. About to quit and look at buying another Juli@, removed drivers from system32 so it would be clean and ready for a new card.
Checked one last time device manager, whatta you know Juli@(!) is there. Installed drivers from device manager, Juli@ control panel popped up, opened cmp and started playing music. Played a couple of albums and realize why all of that trouble was worth it.
Slept on it, then rememberd services that were enabled at the start of this will have be be returned to disable. Then will double check all other setting so I am still not out of the woods yet. Will keep fingers crossed till I pull the SD card I use for the OS and fiqure out snapshot.exe, lessoned learned.
Problem is I don't know why The Juli@ drivers disappeared or how the card finally decided to be recognized. Thinking maybe a bad connection over time devolped on card to pci slot caused this.
Brad
Edits: 03/17/11
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