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In Reply to: RE: cMP - the open source high-end Memory Player posted by marcin_gps@go2.pl on February 19, 2010 at 16:13:43
I was under the impression that Wavelength products do not use an ASIO driver. Are you aware of this? Am I correct?
That means you would not be able to use it with cPlay unless you use ASIO4ALL. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ASIO4ALL limited to 16/48?
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Gordon Rankin - Owner and Chief Scientist of WaveLength - says ASIO is bad for audio playback, and quoting "Marcin... you have started your engine. Now you need to look forward to the ride. XP/ASIO is in your rear view mirror." Man's got a point from a programmer point of view, that's for sure - ASIO was never meant to be used for playback. But here we are, we know the difference - nothing comes even close to CMP2. (I haven't tried MAC with Amarra or Pure Vinyl though, have to give it a shot in future)
According to ASIO4ALL, as far as I know, playback at 24/192 is possible, but I wouldn't go with ASIO4ALL if I were you. Ploytec ASIO drivers are much better solution - http://usb-audio.com/
Firstly thanks for the great feedback.
ASIO is freely available (on email request) from Steinberg. They provide source for it's baseline and both host & driver samples - its simple and OPEN. ASIO's beauty lies in how one implements it. Some soundcard manufacturers do a great job and continuously provide better releases (eg Lynx's new driver 17RC3e which gives subtle but useful improvement). Same applies to playback software.
Great thing ASIO offers is platform independence (Windows & OSX), low latency performance and consumers have plenty to choose from.
hi there.. i am using asio in foobar2000 0.96. so should i use Kernel stream or asio to get the best sound?
Thank you! I had not realized Lynx had a driver update late last year. T.
No worries!
Problems with update file!
Unable to open destination file"DIFx32.Dll"
Get ProcAddress failed
T.
No worries!
M,
I contacted ploytec and they did confirm that their driver could handle 24/192.
But they said that the only product licensed is the yellotec
Gordon Rankin . . . says ASIO is bad for audio playback
LOL. Wow, a manufacturer told you his product is great and the other guy's version is crap. Shocker. Gee, do you think he's trying to sell you something? C'mon, of course he said ASIO is bad, none of his products use ASIO. What's he going to tell you, "ASIO is great, but buy my stuff anyway."
ASIO was never meant to be used for playback
ASIO was developed by and for the Pro Audio industry for recording studios and DAWs. How do you figure it was never meant to be used?
Listen, I'm not trying to be a fanboy for ASIO. If you want to start a debate or comparison between Windows XP w/ASIO and Windows Vista/7 w/WASAPI, that's your prerogative. But manufacturers comments, whose only agenda is to sell their products, do not really have a place in that discussion. And it's one thing if he comes in here making those types of comments, but it's also just as bad if you are here to shill for him. If you want to make personal comments about his products and provide your personal opinion based on your listening experiences, then that is a welcome discussion. But I don't think it's appropriate to make a post that is just presenting his marketing spewage.
C'mon, of course he said ASIO is bad, none of his products use ASIO.
LOL. Yep I remember when he was deriding anything above 44.1...until he could do higher.....
Chill Edward, I wrote "nothing comes even close to CMP2", if i didn't like it, I wouldn't be here in the first place. I'm trying to discuss different matters though and get your opinion on those.
Greets,
Marcin
No worries Marcin, I am indeed always chilled. However, you don't get to play "holier-than-thou" and TELL me to chill. That's not necessary.
You say you wrote "nothing comes even close to CMP2", but you wrote much more than that. You came in to a dedicated thread about an ASIO only music player and presented what appeared to be your opinion that ASIO sucks. You quoted Gordon, but presented it as if it was your opinion as well. This is why I responded. I was just asking for clarification on this topic.
And also I just wanted to remind you that it is against the rules for trade people to post advertisements and sales information about the products they sell. And if you do that for them, then it just makes you look like a shill. So perhaps you can just desist with quoting Gordon and his marketing information.
On the other hand, we welcome anything you have to contribute to this project/hobby and help further any advancements.
Cheers.
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