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In Reply to: RE: Somehow I missed it but: the new documentation is great !! posted by hfavandepas on September 24, 2009 at 03:34:04
starting a new thread in the cMP forum seems to be...eh, just another answer to the previous.
dear administrators, -is that intended web-design or just a missing link ?
with aljordan coming up with playlist in java script and numerous beautiful improvements of cics phenomenal efforts to our all delights, I´m just a little humble to forward my question again, about the eventual possibility of designing the cPlay´er without asio. i.e. in kernel streaming output.
well knowing that this wish is based on the rare configuration with thuneau´s allocator VST digital XO software, I´m just plain curious if the double ASIO request can anyhow be configured differently.
I´m not a ++CC computer programer, but maybe there is just somehow a way to link cPlay with allocator and obtain cMP2 ?
-it just seems to be such a straightforward task.....
-or maybe not !
It would be nice is to get a feature to see latest posts to a thread - that way all posts can be easily picked up. Hopefully sometime soon...
cPlay doing KS can be achieved using ASIO4ALL. In ASIO4ALL, set sound output device to Lynx. This way, we get cPlay > ASIO4ALL > KS Lynx.
Hey C,
Glad to see this post. I tried to explain in my e-mail but not sure if I was too clear.
2nd try.
cPlay > ASIO4ALL > KS Lynx.
That is a start, but what we need is cPlay > ASIO4ALL > Allocator > KS Lynx.
AFIAK ASIO4all only talks to sound cards, not other applications.
Ideally it would be cPlay > KS > Allocator > ASIO Lynx.
Or as you pointed out, Allocator could function like an asio driver. That would be the best.
At first glance it really does look like jack is the way to go. This week is hectic but I will test Jack with cmp one day. I think it can be done and will certainly put in the effort if it helps.
This would also remove Jack and make things a lot simpler.
Will look into it...
YES!!!!!
And while I dont know much at all about vst plugins except that cplay with vst support would solve everything for us poor lynx users, I imagine that there are other vst plugins besides allocator that would be a benefit.
For instance arent there ones that do room correction??
Anyhow, thanks so much for looking into it!!
of room correction that is a vst plugin.
Man would that be great to be able to get crossovers and room correction on a cmp2 box from cplay!
Frank
that was just an EXAMPLE. It was my mistake I suppose. Life has taught me that I seem to be one of the only ones who think GENERALLY.
I didnt do an exhaustive search or anything, just a cursory one to enforce the concept. But in this specific case as I should have known better that no one would see it as a general case, one might get better results with upsampling to 96k in cplay, as the plugin only supports up to 96k, but running room correction.
That might be a better trade off than 192k and no room correction. Who knows. It certainly would be nice to be able to weight that tradeoff on my own.
And there might be a plugin that does support higher sampling rates...
don´t we all live in hope....
or, the hope is the last thing that dies..... :-)
without having any idea how programming language works, or how complicated it would be to write a KS output, it´s just an suggestion.
got my MINLOGON implemented this morning, and it´s just another few layers closer to the music. WOW !
definition, transparency and liquidity another significant step forward. -and more dynamics too!
...it´s sort of sad that my hard disk / digital crossover / musicplayer is close to all optimizations....yeah well, except the real cMP mode.....
it has exceeded my wildest expectations !
P,
See, I have been a fanboy ever since I did a cmp2 box with the wrong hardware.
Now that I have the right hardware, things are even better. Cics has done a bang up job on this and is leaps and bounds ahead of the "just add a usb dac and lots of ram to any old computer" crowd.
I am totally busy this week, but I will be trying to get jack and allocator to work on my new rig....I'll let you know.
dear cics,
thanks for your reply.
still struggling to imagine how to implement the allocator in such a KS configuration.
I have not a lot of experience with asio4all, but maybe you can deepen your thoughts on this....
the allocator is a VST shell and requires the lynx twoB asio driver to route the 6 channels (bass-,mid- and treble bands) separately.
I´ve tried to run the JACK router as "preparatory action" within cMP but have not got that to work.
as winamp and apparently the J.River players have special plug-in´s for allocator, it´s just a thought if anything simmilar could be arranged for cPlay.
having optimized my computer (GA -EG45M-UD2H with E7400, running at same values as Greg´s setup) and stripped windows (minlogon is due tomorrow), it´s actually only the cMP mode that remains.
the allocator is a phenomenal tool to control the phase issues of my magnepans, and is an integral part of my setup.
....or, maybe I´m only dreaming of christmas presents already :-)
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