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In Reply to: RE: why not just try it ? RE: Please state conditions for using nopae posted by hfavandepas on April 02, 2009 at 03:57:10
Hi hfavandepas
Great topic - The Lost Tweak !!
I mean no disrespect to anyone here, just a little pointer to my fellow cMP Comrades... Don't Be Lazy and cut-n-paste the entire parameter string from this post into your BOOT.INI file (...like I did).
You'll find the switch-in-question suffers a typo - "/nopEA" should be "/nopAE" (my uppercase, to indicate the trouble).
"Caveat" indeed !
Cheers,
Grant
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
Follow Ups:
Still being somewhat ashamed (understatement) because of the typo i made (/nopea),
I again looked up the microsoft help-pages. These pages make the confusion complete
(links see below)
So just keep try-ing and give feedback on what your ears are telling you.
(though keep in mind the possibility of a placebo-effect)
Links to MS help pages:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900524 says:
Disable PAE mode in Windows XP with SP2 and later versions of Windows XP
Add the following switches to the Windows XP Boot.ini file:
/noexecute=alwaysoff /NOPAE
For example, the Boot.ini file may appear as follows:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP" /fastdetect /noexecute=alwaysoff /NOPAE
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms791539.aspx says:
DEP and PAE
On Windows XP with SP2, , when you disable DEP by using /noexecute=alwaysoff, Windows disables both DEP and PAE. This is the equivalent of using /noexecute=alwaysoff /nopae.
ESI juli@ or LynxL22 dig i/o -> Lavry Black DA10 -> Mogami Gold -> Klein & Hummel O300
Hi Grant,
It's even more confusing too me now....
I ran to my cMP PC to see if the typo (/nopea) was in the boot.ini
And it was !!
:-(
Like I mentioned earlier in a post too Cics:
Microsoft writes about /nopae:
“On Windows XP with SP2, , when you disable DEP by using /noexecute=alwaysoff, Windows disables both DEP and PAE. This is the equivalent of using /noexecute=alwaysoff /nopae.”
See: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms791539.aspx
But what is happening in my PC, with this typo (/nopea) in my boot.ini ?
I definitely hear a significant difference in sound quality (better too my ears)
Does the typo disable ‘alwaysoff’?
I’m always very much aware of the possibility of the placebo-effect.
That’s why I always ask others to try too.
For now let’s wait what Cics has too say
ESI juli@ or LynxL22 dig i/o -> Lavry Black DA10 -> Mogami Gold -> Klein & Hummel O300
Hi hfavandepas
Thanks for stirring up attention to this adjustment - in my setup, it makes the sound "better"... and that's another little step forward for the cMP Miracle.
As to what the MS documentation says... maybe the guy who wrote the doc hasn't talked to the guy who wrote the code... cause there's no placebo going on in my room - the change is real... and really welcome !
It's like getting new cPlay update from cics... just a little bit better every time.
Happy Listening All !
Cheers,
Grant
That's not a Toy... IT'S A TOOL !!
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