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In Reply to: RE: :-) and a note to Abe. posted by Mercman on January 13, 2017 at 15:56:43
"A belief not based on my experience. Reminds me of the political rhetoric that governs this country."Sorry Mercman. I disagree. And I don't see what your country has anything to do with this (there are things I can say but will refrain due to irrelevance).
My beliefs are based on experience AND objective testing to verify. I have read a few of your reviews. All I can say is like this terse response, I believe there's a distinct lack of detail and coherence in much of what you express.
Maybe you heard a difference, maybe you just think you heard a difference; neither can be proven and there's no point arguing. But maybe if you did objective measurements with your gear you can show us a difference which would then elevate the level of discourse beyond the subjective and actually promote further exploration into the how and why as well as magnitude. We are looking at *engineered* devices after all!
Permit me to bring up one example; I see you review lots of Synergistic stuff. I tried some Synergistics power cables a few years back as well. Even explored their "tuning" bullets or whatever. Have a look at the power supply they use in my post:
Synergistic Power CablesJust one example of cables that used to cost hundreds and in this case has a cheap Chinese switching power supply "powering" an "Active Shield" (which when I checked had an asking price of $125). Even though I did not measure any sonic impact, does this not raise questions about the cost and value of these things? Does it change your view about the company and perhaps want to enquire further about cost and maybe mechanism of action? Would you ever comment on what's under the hood of these devices you review? Do you think you would "hear" a difference knowing this?
Although I appreciate the marvel of the human mind and auditory system as remarkable, I also accept that we are all biased. Measurements are a way to minimize that bias and the combination of subjective and objective balance IMO is necessary to fully hone in on adjudication of sound quality.
You may not like how I think or maybe even my political leanings if we ever get to chat over a beer... But I do hope I have expressed my views in a reasonably clear fashion.
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Archimago's Musings: A 'more objective' audiophile blog.
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Hearing something that is not there reminds me much more of 'Religion' rather than politics....
I think once you've dropped hundreds or thousands of dollars on cables, you better get religion or you'll feel pretty foolish if you can't really hear anything.
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For the expensive cables in my system, I either borrowed a friend's first or purchased them on an evaluation basis.
I really thought one of my review friends was crazy when he told me back in 2000 or so that power cords made an audible difference. At least until he lent me his three sets for a while to listen to in my system. :)
I guess I forgot that I purchase the cables I evaluate before reviewing them.
I agree with you that measurements can be informative and useful in evaluating any component. But the measurements have to be relevant.
Using RMAA and J Test aren't! The former just gives nice tables and graphs. The latter has been abandoned by many. It is a puzzle to me why he spends so much time tabulating data when he doesn't even seem to take on some of the key factors that relate to SQ, like power supplies, usb signal integrity, clocks etc.
It has long been the cae in audio that measurements do not tell the story of sound quality.
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