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In Reply to: RE: Stick with Audirvana or migrate to...... ???? posted by andy evans on December 19, 2016 at 08:00:46
Hello Andy,
As I'm somewhat new to the whole CA concept, as I've only been doing it since last March, yet having gone through JRiver | Decibel | A+ as tied to my Mac Mini ( 2012 vintage ) which had been optimized for an audio only unit, I tend to view the JRiver software for Mac as an afterthought, and whereas the actual owner of A+ does in fact use a Mac Mini as opposed to some sort of more expensive dedicated Music Server says a lot from where I sit, and then seeming that A+ was created with Mac in mind from the start, well let's just say I'm riding it out as I find in " my system " it's more transparent and organically balanced then said version of JRiver, as well as HQPLAYER.
On the Roon side of things, I've yet to sample......., as I'm not quite sold upon having to be forced to use a NAS, especially having invested in a couple of 1 TB ScanDisk SSD units.
But once again, other then the fact the designer of A+ is still working out a few issues on integrating a means of converting from PCM to DSD on the fly, that doesn't put to much of a load on the Mini's CPU as the current version does, sonically..........., I find it's a simply wonderful sounding audio software program that should only get better in time.
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Right now I have a huge music library in iTunes and running Audirvana. I have a small apartment and just listen in the one room at present. So the only thing that would tempt me would be significantly better sound quality.
The impression I've got from reading a lot of posts is that HQPlayer has the edge on A+ for SQ. This gets complicated by several factors - e.g. DSD versus PCM. I have a Soekris 1021-05 DAC I'm waiting to connect up, and not sure how DSD fits into all this. I don't know enough about DSD and how it's implemented.
Andy,
Once again, and as I often put it........, I can only speak on the truth as I hear it. As Abe has pointed out HQPLAYER is a dog as far as how it integrates with ones music library, and then there's the part about how does one select the best sounding filters settings for their particular dac?.
From what I've gathered, it's a very very nice software for getting the best from DSD files, or in my case by merely upsampling them from PCM to DSD 128, and while some are more prone to like one over the other, I tend to reside somewhere in between......., as I can and do live with both upsamplings of DXD 705 and DSD 128 and couldn't in life live without either.
"On the Roon side of things, I've yet to sample......., as I'm not quite sold upon having to be forced to use a NAS, especially having invested in a couple of 1 TB ScanDisk SSD units."
I'm not sure what you mean. I have SSDs on my Mac Mini. I run Roon. I do not have a NAS.
Hello Abe,
As I was merely going by a few postings I've spotted here and CA, it seemed as if everyone was whom was tired to a MicroRendu and Roon seemed to use both Ethernet and a NAS type of storage device, which I'd prefer not to use either.
As someone whom is an apartment dweller, I can't go around having holes drilled into walls coming from our bedroom ( where the cabling service resides ) to the living room, nor like looking at extra footage of cabling ran along the floorboards. Yet I guess in hindsight I've to look closer prior to making said statements.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
In it's simplest implementation Roon does not need a network or NAS. You can simply install and run Roon on your PC/Mac and interact with Roon on your PC/Mac computer screen. No network. No NAS.
If you have a Wifi network you can then use the Roon App on a tablet (iPad or Android) and use the portable tablet to interact with Roon and control your music remotely from the tablet.
Thanks Abe.
I'll look at Roon much much closer then, as I merely misunderstood how it worked........
The only downside for Roon that I see is it's yearly subscription cost, unless you pony up and pay a one-time lifetime license fee. I'm on the pay each year plan until next summer. I'll either subscribe again for a year or pay for the unlimited lifetime license.
Thanks again Abe.
I'm finally getting a feel for both Roon and microRendu:
http://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/roon-headless-on-a-nas-with-the-microrendu-initial-forays/
It seems I've a few more options worth looking into after all.
Interesting article / review. Thanks!
The author probably assumed that he needed a NAS for his Roon system so that's the route he took. And since he installed it on a NAS he was of course forced to control it remotely. Most NAS don't attach to a keyboard, mouse, monitor like a PC. Hence his bold type: (ATTENTION: ROON CONTROLLED BY REMOTE DEVICE) .
This doesnt' tell the whole story. One can install Roon on any PC/Mac and use that PC/Mac to control Roon and have it's output drive a DAC that is directly attached to the PC/Mac. I can control Roon from my local Mac keyboard, mouse, LCD monitor AND I can also control it remotely using the Roon App on my iPad or iPhone.
But wait, there's more! I leave Roon running on my Mac in the office but not playing music in the office. I have the microRendu network streamer down in the basement and I take my iPad down there and direct Roon to stream and play music through the microRendu in my basement system instead of up in my office.
But wait, there's more! I can have Roon play in both locations (office & basement) simultaneously..... I can play the same tune or different tunes in each location.
So, in these scenarios my Mac Mini in my office is in fact acting like Network Attached Storage. The music files are stored there but they are being streamed over my network down to the basement microRendu.
The Roon license allows for one Roon Server/Core, but you can have as many 'end-points' as you like. I also stream my music library from the office Mac Mini to our bedroom or family room systems via the small AppleTV boxes in each room. Roon also supports streaming via Apple AirPlay protocol.
So Roon is very flexible. Some folks like to use a dedicated NAS and that works great. But you do not have to use a NAS and you do not have to control Roon with a remote device.
Your welcome Abe.
Back to listening, as well as learning ( as it the one area where one never stops growing ) thanks to guys like you and Mercman, I'm getting there.
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