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In Reply to: RE: Guessing that the SU-1 still kicks the AMANERO card to the curb? posted by Ivan303 on September 25, 2016 at 07:40:12
My NOS 7 DAC does not have any USB input, I opted for both the RJ45 and HDMI versions of i2S inputs.. so not possible for me to compare the Amanero vs the SU-1 in the NOS 7.
The F1 is still not cheap, maybe more $$ than the Amanero. I just checked Taobao and saw that the version in the box is offered there.
https://world.taobao.com/item/535647158584.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a219r.lm0.14.10.NXGuKG&ns=1&abbucket=2#detail
My NFB-1DAC 2016 does have the Amanero, but it is still breaking in so I have not yet seriously compared vs the SU-1, but I have heard the NFB-1DAC 2016 with the SU-1 (via a 50CM BNC/SPDIF cable from Audio-GD) and the also briefly using the Amanero USB and my first impression would be the SU-1 will be preferable. The NFB-1DAC 2016 i2S input is RJ45, so no i2S connection with the SU-1...
I actually think in many ways the SU-1 is subjectively technically better than the Tanly also, just in my rig and for my preferences the synergy works to near perfection with the Tanly and this new NOS stuff from Audio-GD.
For example, with the SU-1 I can more clearly/easily hear the details of the high end of cymbals.. I have been thinking that (to me) the SU-1 sounds more like a live solo mic feed, while the Tanly sounds more like standing on stage a few meters from the drum kit with the band playing.
As I mentioned earlier, the SU-1 extension at both ends and overall clarity is remarkable.. I have no idea how 2 identical sets of bits can sound so different..
One thing I am not sure of is if the SU-1 uses the USB line 5V for the input half of the board.. If so I think that would open some interesting possibilities for optional powering of the SU-1 also.
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IThe Szinger su-1 has a 110v supply so it must not take any power from the computer
Also for $25 you can get an audio-gd module and easily 9I hope) replace the J45 With an HDMI input. I will be doing that as soon as I get the module. I will report on the rsults
Alan
"Also for $25 you can get an audio-gd module and easily (I hope) replace the J45 With an HDMI input."
Thanks for the info! - when I bought the NFB-1, I noticed that Audio-GD did not offer the HDMI i2S as an option, so I did not ask. I will check on that for my NFB-1.
My Master-11 has the RJ-45 while my Master 7 is HDMI.Don't remember why.
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Edits: 09/25/16
I have successfully used a 1 meter Wireworld Starlight 6 HDMI cable for the i2S between the Tanly and NOS 7 with no perceptible loss in SQ over the normal 0.3M length I usually use.
From what I have been reading for RJ45 i2S, 0.3M seems about the maximum safe length, but could be technically superior due to no transmitter/receiver modules in the path..
The "Singxer F-1 XMOS USB Digital Interface Module XU208 U8 with CNC SHELL all-in-one" pictured above to be powered by a USB source (Regen) and the SU-1 for use with the Master-7 in my main system.
If I had a suitable work space here I would just swap out the AMANERO card for the F-1 card and be done with it on both systems but...
Sadly all of my stuff for that is in storage. :-(
I spoke to 2 friends that have a master 7 and tried both swapping out the amanero board with the F1 Or leaving the amanero board in and feeding the Master 7 with the SU-1. Both have told me that the SU-1 was clearly the better sounding. That is what I am doing. I also feed the SU-1 with a Regen feeding aIntona isolater into the SU-1. I have not had to evaluate the various hookup possibilities this stuff allows. Just don't have the time
Alan
I tried the SU-1 with, and briefly without, the W4S Recovery in the path. The Recovery is powered by a special model LPS from TeraDak and with an iFi iDC Purfier additionally plugged into the Recovery end... I preferred the sound with the Recovery in the path, but it was not a very big difference (could have been expectation bias actually.. though with this computer audio stuff, things rarely go exactly the way you would expect them..)
Thanks for the comments, SU-1 vs. various modules built it.. If my Google translation worked correctly, there was a recent comment at the Audio-GD BBS (from Audio-GD) that it was easier to get good power to the USB components when they are mounted in a box outside the DAC..
than the USB source +5 volt supply powering the F-! from whatever they are using a USB input.
Know someone using the F-1 board in a home made box but he is powering it from a uRendu running on a TaraDak LPS.
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