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In Reply to: RE: Cost/price of a "generic" Audiostream Syrah-like server posted by Frihed89 on June 20, 2016 at 12:13:30
It's not that hard. You will see other companies offering Server products that are more affordable as time goes on.
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Unfortunately, as you pointed out in another post, the business model for audio companies is completely different from the business model for PCs. There is always going to be a markup of 3x or 4x the cost of commodity products if you expect a customized and supported product. This isn't specific to products catering to the high-end audio market, it applies equally well to any low volume market segment.
I would go a step further. If there isn't a large markup, then there would be little reason to believe that one is purchasing a product from a viable business. Consequently, if one is expecting support, one is likely to be sadly disappointed if one got a "bargain".
If one is not budget constrained and lacks time and/or computing skills, then it can make sense to spend one's money on these products. However, if one is budget constrained and still lacks the time/skills, then perhaps one would get better sound for the bucks spending it on a DAC, amplification, speakers, etc... It would be interesting to see reviews that explored these tradeoffs.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
There seems to be at least 2 approaches.
First are those with genuine hardware and software expertise, who try to arrive at a nicely made package costing $1000 to say $8000. A user is locked into a dedicated system for his/her purposes but will know that some kind of holistic approach has been taken by the propreiters. The Plyback Designs rig falls into this category.
Second, there are those who try to conduct software 'optimisation' of nuc type of computers in fairly cheaply made 'low end China type' cases. They seem to be selling these for $1000 to $2000. We are talking of the approach of using a Convent Garden PC or laptop, with 3 to 4 different kinds of OS modification audio suites to make the device 'sound good'. There will be little or no improvement on the hardware side except by way of claims of resonance control or whatever that cannot be challenged.
Most inmates with any kind of scientific or engineering education and training should know that, with the latter approach, there is no clarity of what is going on with the operating system or how this may be modfied. The user is unkikely to learn anything by using this approach and will be locked into a cycle of paying more for any 'software upgrades'.
In a free world the inmate chooses but unfortunately not all will be informed.!
First are those with genuine hardware and software expertise, who try to arrive at a nicely made package costing $1000 to say $8000. A user is locked into a dedicated system for his/her purposes but will know that some kind of holistic approach has been taken by the propreiters. The Plyback Designs rig falls into this category.I think you're very confused again.
The Playback Design Syrah Server at $6500 is based the "Convent Garden PC" NUC motherboard.... just like the Nimitra Server, with commodity Windows 10 Pro and some optimizations. Add River Media Center, and commonly available dBpoweramp to the Syrah. All for a mere $6500!
Not much different than the $1395 Nimitra Server you are talking about also based on your "Convent Garden PC", commodity Windows 10 Pro with some optimizations, but the former is $6500! The Nimitra is $1395.
You're doing your best to discredit Windows X because you have some 'history' with him. But anyone can see right through your misinformation.
Edits: 06/28/16
You have no idea what you are on about.
"If one is not budget constrained and lacks time and/or computing skills, then it can make sense to spend one's money on these products. However, if one is budget constrained and still lacks the time/skills, then perhaps one would get better sound for the bucks spending it on a DAC, amplification, speakers, etc... It would be interesting to see reviews that explored these tradeoffs."
That is a good point Tony. Definitely something for me to think about in my future reviews.
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