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In Reply to: RE: Hey! posted by AbeCollins on June 10, 2016 at 17:30:31
as long as I was not the seller and in no way associated with the seller.
Never even occurred to me that the Asylum Trader was a such a valued source of 'revenue?' that they would want to protect it from 'competitors'.
Because, let's face it.
Audio Asylum HAS NO REAL COMPETITORS!
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I think if it's your own item for sale the Bored may take issue with posting a direct link to another audio site, but a one time mention is OK.
I wonder if this is also the case when mentioning that an item is up for sale on Agon that may be of interest to others, especially if it is a current or very recent topic of discussion. A mention is OK, but no direct links?
I know that I and others have posted direct links to Agon ads in the past if we thought someone might be interested in the item for sale which is what Cut-Throat did. But now we're hearing that direct links to a competing site is frowned upon, but a one time direct link to AA Trader is allowed.
It is ultimately left to the discretion of the Bored.
not that I object as it's the 'bored's' bored.
but there are a couple of issues at play.One, we don't want to start spamming threads with non stop ad links. Those links/ads will eventually expire and then we're left with stale info.
Two, non-stop linking to competing sites, using our bandwidth, probably isn't a polite thing to do. If you want, within the context of a topic, mention that there's more info over on X, Y or Z site, that's fine, but quoting and hotlinking there is bad form.
Three, about the casual and infrequent mentioning of one's item that's up for sale on AA, I've never found it to be abused, so it hasn't been an issue for my Asylums.
The BORG at first didn't recall the policy, in my memory, made back 10-15 years ago, but it seems to reemerging into its collective hive memory banks.
Four, the new issue seems to be with somebody who lists 25 items and then feels the need to tell us about them in 25 different threads. While this potentially might be a problem, the chances of it happening are next to nil and chances are that those 25 items get spread out over the different sub Asylums and won't be concentrated on one Asylum, like DIGITAL, for instance.
Anyhow...we're all on the same page, no?
I'm infinitely less concerned with the above and more concerned with the tone of inmates towards others with varying differences of opinion when it comes to this stuff, so let's all focus on our own behavior here on Computer Audio Asylum and all of the other Asylums.
That's the main point to ponder, not whether Ebay qualifies as a competing audio website, or not. With Google and Bing being what they are, it's simple to reference the product and mention the website, if that website is a competitor, or a 'for sale' site.
Chris
Edits: 06/13/16
I've sold stuff on Asylum Trader (last was a Oppo HA-1 DAC/Headphone Amp) but I would have never DARED to mention the fact here even in passing for fear of being banned for life (what's left of it).
As for Cut-Throat's link to the sale of a uRendu on a competitive site, I think an exception could easily be justified in this case as the context of his post was clearly NOT to boost the sale of the uRendu on a competitive site but to Troll all of the folks here who have been raving about how great it is. ;-)
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I'll go now.
I think he was just letting people know. I don't think he is a troll.
Yes, it was a trolling post. You are unaware of the posting history.
I disagree. It's refreshing to hear opposing viewpoints rather than trying to sift through the same ol' shills. I don't know how anyone could witness the plethora of computer audiophile gizmos and not have some degree of skepticism.
I bought one of these cheaper USB gizmos. The result was equivalent to a slight increase of the dial on the treble. I actually turned my treble down in response, as I found it too bright. A waste of $150, other than the education of it.
"Shills"? Care to be specific?
"I bought one of these cheaper USB gizmos. The result was equivalent to a slight increase of the dial on the treble. I actually turned my treble down in response, as I found it too bright. A waste of $150, other than the education of it."
What device? With what DAC, what gear?
This type of bullshit internet innuendo is nonsense.
If I had wanted to be specific, I'd have done so upfront. I am not interested in harming a specific manufacturer's sales. But I do believe caution is warranted with these products. The hyperbole on these forums is often just that, and in some cases, the "shill" title is warranted.
It was a widely lauded USB enhancer. The near universal acclaim finally broke me, so it was disappointing to find the results as previously stated.
What is your point?Are you blaming others for a purchase you made of your own free will that did not sound good in your system?
Can't take responsibility?
When buying bread at the market "caution" should be exercised. Glad you are standing up to defend the poor, victimized audiophiles who might be "cheated" out of $150.
You don't list your system, just more unsubstantiated crap.
Dear Lord.
Edits: 06/14/16
My original point, was that I do not find Cutthroat's posts to be "trolls", as you labeled them. I found them to be a rare point of contention with the typical sea of glowing reviews for these USB products. And yes, some of these glowing "reviews" are "shills". It is naive to believe otherwise. All of them? Of course not, and I did not say they were.
As for more details, I already explained I'm not interested in disparaging a manufacturer. As for my system? I like my anonymity. I'm sure you have enough self-awareness to realize that there are a lot of nuts on the internet.
So let us recap:You bought an UN-NAMED product because of UN-NAMED internet "shills" that sounded bad on your UN-NAMED system.
And you won't name them because you don't want to "offend" a manufacturer.
What a hoot.
Edits: 06/14/16 06/14/16
I doubt that's the interpretation of most folks reading these posts, but to each his own... Best regards.
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