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In Reply to: RE: Computer Audio has left me in the dust... posted by oldmkvi on May 11, 2016 at 11:18:30
I'm sure it's good, but things seem to be moving very fast, what will be obsolete tomorrow?!! The previous model !!
Below is a reader comment following the article in Audiostream about the SOtM sMS-200.
I own the previous model the SMS-100, and like it a lot. It's only a few years old, and when I wrote SOtM and asked them is they might update the OS with RoonReady or any other features, they answered, no it's a dead product, you should just buy an SMS-200.
Well thanks for that.
The example above is one risk I warned about when buying a dedicated audio appliance from some manufacturers. You are at their mercy in getting support. In this case the user is told his older product will not be updated and he has to buy the newer model in order gain new features. Your computer setup for audio will have a much longer usable lifespan as it can be updated (by you) with whatever software you choose to run on it. And if you ever decide not to use your computer for audio, it can be re-purposed for other things.
I'm not saying these dedicated audio appliances aren't good. I'm just reiterating the risks with a real world example above. Sure, these devices are only a few hundred bucks but if you have to buy a new one every couple years to keep up with the latest features.... well. What about other dedicated digital music player devices that cost several thousand dollars that will not or cannot be updated by the manufacture or user?
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WTF are you talking about?SOtM DISCONTINUED the product. As EVERY company has the right to, including Apple.
They sold out every last unit of the 100. Why would they update it when they were designing an updated product?
Can you call Apple and ask them to "update your iPod Nano? Your iPod Shuffle?
The SBT has not been supported by Logitech for 5 years now, and people are still using them daily.
You twist and spin to suit your misguided agenda.
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You've completely missed the point! Or conveniently ignored the facts.
As your ridiculous term, "audio appliance" implies a veiled abuse directed at high end audio manufacturers: it is grossly ironic that you wholly embrace these same manufacturers for other parts of your system.
You can't show any evidence that an NAA transport is becoming more or less obsolete than any computer.
As a matter of fact, you admit in your statement that a multi-purpose computer actually becomes obsolete QUICKER, - for audio. Which you conveniently leave out the word "audio" in your childish rant.
the fact remains that multifunction computer designers, hate, and SUCK-AT, building the kind of hardware need to run high end audio, leaving the CONSUMER or their paid agents (WHO ARE HIGH END AUDIO DEVELOPERS), to fix the shit that a multifunction computer generates as it goes obsolete on the "replace your gadget every year" model.
What's worse than a shite, multifunction computer designer/engineer who doesn't hate/believe in high performance audio? A consumer with a putty knife case-cracker, breaking it playing whack-a-mole.
I would rather put my money behind a designer like John Swenson who has learned a ton about digital file processing and networking to produce a product with 1 FUNCTION, than some computer designer trying to save money by combining analog & digital ports.
For all your blind, unreasonable, ignorant, prayers to the demigods of computer design, they, in turn, - mock and abuse you for your $30K audio system.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I assured oldmkvi that his computer audio setup wasn't going obsolete any time soon and gave him just one documented example of a dedicated digital music player that was prematurely abandoned and no longer supported by the manufacturer.... and you go ape-shit berserk!!No, you don't have an agenda. ;-) You've only been spewing for the past year about how superior your little streamer collection sounds compared to any PC/Mac based audio system. Gimme a break.
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You are spreading MISINFORMATION.
The 100 is DISCONTINUED, NOT DEAD. Just like the SBT. No difference.
It runs on CURRENT SonicOrbitor firmware. I know several people using them just fine. It streams every known resolution. The only "updating" it would need would be if you wanted to use Roon with it. Otherwise, other products are STILL catching up to it. It was $450.
STOP WITH HE BS.
Manufacturers are absolutely entitled to discontinue products.
DISCONTINUED -AND- UNSUPPORTED for updates for new features in a mere couple years. Time to buy ANOTHER one!Manufacturers are absolutely entitled to discontinue products.
Sure, but DIY computer audio system users like oldmkvi don't have to be concerned with these issues as he is free to update his computer with any number of newer software applications he wishes. He is not dependent on one manufacturer, a manufacturer who in this case chose to abandon his loyal customers who bought the previous model which can no longer be updated..
There was no B.S. to what I was saying to oldmkvi so get over it.
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you are utterly disingenuous.
And a LIAR.
You do NOT have to buy another one.
As I said, there is NO NEED to update the 100 unless you want to use Roon. Period.
The product is NOT dead, it is discontinued.
STOP THE LYING. No body needs to buy re-buy anything.
You are clearly an irrational mental patient who has been stomped at every turn. You live to argue.
Roon is but one good example you keep mentioning. Many people want to run Roon and you CANNOT with the previous model SMS-100.
I didn't write this, "I own the previous model the SMS-100, and like it a lot. It's only a few years old, and when I wrote SOtM and asked them is they might update the OS with RoonReady or any other features , they answered, no it's a dead product, you should just buy an SMS-200."
Are you saying the owner of this previous model SMS-100 is lying? Get a clue, man!
STOP the disingenuous BULLSHIT. Stop it.Roon will cost $500 to own or $120 per year. It is absolutely optional and unnecessary if you have DLNA software running.
You are PURPOSELY spreading FALSE information.
I happen to know there is a language barrier with SOtM. I have exchanged emails with them in the past and their english is limited. They ABSOLUTELY meant it is a discontinued product.
When you walk into a car dealer and want to buy a 2 year old model, and there are non available, they will sell you THE CURRENT model.
Disingenuous clown.
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Nothing I said was false. I simply cited fact from an actual owner of the product.
And since you tried to side track the issue with a weak car analogy....
When you walk into a car dealer and want to buy a 2 year old model, and there are non available, they will sell you THE CURRENT model.
Sure, but say I already own that 2 year old model do they stop supporting it? Lets say I want new features and new points of interest in my Navigation system, they update it. They don't tell me I have to buy a new car!
Another misinformed post. More bullshit.
Sonore, who sold SOtM, in the US, WILL support it.
It is FALSE to call it a dead product.
It is FALSE to say you must purchase something new.
To say you have egg on your face would be an understatement.
Will they make it "RoonReady" and add other new features to the previous model SMS-100?
Not according to the guy who bought one.
S T F U already.
we want this to be a happy, fun and informative place to visit.
Telling somebody to 'shut the fuck up' ain't kosher.
Remember, just because you 'can,' doesn't mean you 'should.'
Thanks for playing along.
Chris
You're in a corner with egg on YOUR face so you have nothing else to say? I'm glad!
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MYOB
Let's just agree to disagree.
Fair enough?
-Rod
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