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In Reply to: RE: OK, please describe how to hook up a Micro-Rendu posted by Isaak J. Garvey on May 11, 2016 at 15:43:45
from the computer or the Modem?
Can you give me a brand name/model of a NAS Device?
What initiates playback from an NAS?
I mean, I use HQ or some others on my IMac,
but if it isn't in the chain anymore, how does it play back Files, or choose them?
I know these are Baby Questions, and I appreciate your taking the time to respond.
If you could fill in these gaps for me, I think I'd have it!
I used to be this ignorant of the Finale Music Notation Program,
but eventually came to grasp it...
Follow Ups:
The real beauty comes when you realize how much more time you spend listening to music as opposed to finding, loading, unloading and putting it away. You re-discover stuff you might have forgotten about.
I already had a Win based desktop so I simply leverage it for music and video storage using LMS via my home network. I'm able stream both from a shared library to a range of devices around the house.
From one E-statter to another, appreciate the comment.
I think if more folks experienced the value of having a centralized music server, there would be more converts. The transition was perhaps easier for me since I have maintained a home network for many years.
FWIW, I'm in the process of shopping for a different DAC. While my current one sounds great, it has limited USB support. I currently use a S/PDIF connection to the Touch player which has worked just fine - and not required a host of external USB widgets. Ethernet already in place.
That environment will not, however support the USB only uRendu. :)
Never been a better time to shop for a DAC.
I strongly suggest the Simaudio line..full coverage on the DACs..every input, and every resolution.
yowza.
check it out. Linn Kazoo app. FREE.
Edits: 05/11/16
oldmkvi:
-The ethernet cable comes form an Ethernet jack in the room, a wireless router, or a switch. You must have a home network. I have ethernet in everyroom in the house with wirless for mobile devices.
-As I explained, a mobile control point like an iPad controls playback. Think of it as a very nice remote control.
NAS? I use Synology but there are so many good ones..high capacity and some come preloaded with DLNA software. You can also use your computer as a NAS.
Here is the beauty of the miroRendu..and previous SOtM products...they absolutely still allow you to run HQ Player! So in that case your computer is in a remote location, connected to the network, and your iPad/Android tablet, whatever, controls playback. Total isolation, total piece of mind.
So, if I have a "Roon Ready" DAC (eg, the new Ayre DAC), I only need a NAS and an Android or iOS to use Roon? No PC anywhere in the chain?
Roon requires the RoonReady DAC, - which the new Ayre is, correct.
Roon also requires Roon Core or Roon Server. People have installed Roon Server on their NAS, that has their audio files.
Most people are running Roon Server/Core on a separate computer that's connected to their home network. Several folks have installed Roon Server on their Synology brand NAS. And, I'm sure that other brand NASs will be able to install it soon.
Yes, - you'll use an iPAD or tablet as a remote control to play the files on the Ayre.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Hold on Sordid...
One clarification..Roon has nothing do with your DAC..it does not talk to roon, your streamer does...
Hi,
I think that the new Ayre DAC has a roon ready NIC/processor built into it so all you need is to connect the Ayre DAC up to the LAN via ethernet and you're ready to go.... Kind of like the PSAudio Bridge II which they're setting up to be RoonReady as well, - (if I'm not mistaken).
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
The new Ayre "digital hub" is a one box streamer with onboard DAC with multiple digital inputs. Just like a host of other integrated DAC/streamer boxes. $8500.(Side note, I found Ayre's immense stubbornness about only offering a DAC with a USB input amusing..their owner has railed against SPDIF for a decade. Funny how you can only swim upstream for so long. Folks still want SPDIF, AES/EBU, and now Ethernet.)
ROON has nothing to do with the DAC module. The firmware for the streamer module is what needs to be roon "ready".
Just to be clear, Roon in a networked audio set up talks only to your streamer.
You can also use Roon as a stand alone player on a computer connected to a DAC. Any DAC.
Edits: 05/12/16
Sorry...
I was referring to the new "digital hub" as a DAC. It's better to refer to it not as a DAC, cause that gets more confusing....
:-)
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I admit, I would love to hear it, but I am leery of locking in DAC, streamer, and other functions into one box. I know Ayre uses firmware upgrades to add functionality, so maybe not a big deal.
At $8500, not cheap, but it will have Ayre quality.
Yeah, - I'm a + 1 on that too.....
I had a PSAudio Directstream DAC in my system for awhile. But, - I don't think that I'd want my network streamer built into that either. But, - that card is on a PCI, (or PCI-like), bus that can be replaced if there's an upgrade.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Your DAC has nothing to do with Roon, is is the file player/streamer.It runs on the device that hosts your files. Just like LMS.
You control playback with the Roon mobile app...
It is simply what is being talked about as a much more advanced protocol than DLNA.
By the way, Roon is a real thing, unlike MQA, which is essentially vapor ware. Roon is not a format, a decoding alogorithm, or DSP. It is just standalone software.
Edits: 05/12/16
Not quite.
Let me TRY, I stress try to explain, because it is can be confusing.
Think of Roon as a hyper engineered replacement form DLNA. The designers claim, and others have agreed, that is a far superior network communication protocol for networked audio. It does EXACTLY what LMS, MiniMServer, or Jriver does..catalog and you library and send files to your file player/streamer.
Your DAC has nothing to do with Roon. Your streamer (SBT, BDP-2, Sonore, SOtM, whatever) must have firmware that can communicate in the Roon protocol.
Roon must run on your NAS or computer, again just like LMS.
The other benefit touted by Roon is the meta data enhancemnts
Maybe I should retire my touch tone landline and join the 21st century? Nah!
So,what are the benefits of these "Roon Ready" devices?
Are you familiar at all with a networked audio set up? If not, I can't be of much help.
DLNA is simply a networking protocol that allows media devices to communicate. So I can stream a movie on my computer to my Apple TV in another room etc.
Don't get too caught up in the Roon buzz.
It is a very good software, written by the folks who used to work on Sooloos.
The benefits, besides perhaps better sound, and a cleaner protocol, is the meta data overlay.
For example for any given album you stream it will tell you who wrote the songs, who played on the album, who produced it, it will give you 20 other artists with a similar sound, show you album reviews etc.
Roon Ready SIMPLY means the device can talk to the Room software running on your NAS. Nothing more.
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