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In Reply to: RE: Yeah... it's billed as a DAC + network file player posted by Cut-Throat on November 23, 2015 at 10:40:16
The "network file player" part caught my eye before the FPGA DAC part of it: as I'm a NFP stalker. But, on the other hand, my previous attitude of "DACs are done" has been changed.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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What did you mean by "DACs are Done"?
Cut-Throat
Before FPGA, - it was my opinion that high end manufacturers should stop making DACs, and get on to single purpose file players, as the market was saturated with great DACs, and there is/was a huge gap in file player production: still is.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I was pretty amazed at how many DACs there were out there. Especially, since there was not a great difference in sound amoung them. (My Opinion)... --- And you are correct, there seems to be a complete void in File Players. Especially the ones that will play Streaming Services.Also, my Price point is around $1 Grand for a Streamer. The Sonore for $3 Grand would be a lot of money to stream bits into my DAC.... For something that I may not even be able to differentiate.
Cut-Throat
Edits: 11/23/15
Both the Aries mini & Sonore Sonic Orbiter are under $1000, and will show up as Squeezeboxes in the group. With Aries, you have to install a plugin in LMS. You do nothing with the Orbiter.
I am waiting for the Micro Rendu to see what the price is going to be & how it'll work. The appeal of having a group of Squeezeboxes all over the house, is pretty cool.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
As most streamers are based, at least to some extent, on PC hardware and software (Linux?) one wonders why one couldn't figure out how to load TIDAL, QOBUZ and/or DEEZER ELITE PC players right onto the streamer?
Clearly TIDAL, QOBUZ, DEEZER and ClassicsOnlineHD are not all likely to write player software for every streaming service likely to hit the market and most streamer manufacturers are not going to want to spend the time and money that a company like SONOS can and will to insure that they are 100% supportive of every service there is.
If SONOS would just spend a buck or two on a decent sized hardware cache to buffer all those streams they support, I'd be quite happy.
The current state of the market is constrained by various restrictive agreements between streaming services and hardware manufacturers. First it was Spotify holding out on hardware makers demanding they incorporate Spotify Connect (basically a Spotify-exclusive version of AirPlay). Then Sonos announcing their exclusivity deal with Deezer Elite. Then Tidal launched with a bunch of partnership deals that apparently include some kind of non-compete restriction, so most of the vendors who have integrated Tidal into their devices and apps offer nothing but Tidal in North America and Qobuz in Europe.Also, you wrote:
As most streamers are based, at least to some extent, on PC hardware and software (Linux?) one wonders why one couldn't figure out how to load TIDAL, QOBUZ and/or DEEZER ELITE PC players right onto the streamer?With most online services, if all you want is access without integration, you can install their native apps and use AirPlay/Google Cast/Songcast to send it to your player. That doesn't help with Deezer Elite of course. And it's also a sub-par experience compared to having the service integrated.
Edits: 11/24/15
that you can download if you subscribe to Deezer Elite through your SONOS.
That said, SONOS has figured out how to get just about everyone on board, albeit still country license restricted such that, for example, if you register your SONOS account in Europe you can have QOBUZ on your SONOS but not Rhapsody.
Just support http://ickstream.com/
Cut-Throat
How did I miss it?
Any chance I can plug that software into a Marantz NA system?
Or any other CURRENTLY available streamer box with decent sound and an S/PDIF coaxial output?
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