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In Reply to: RE: Tidal is harmful to artists, and creative content posted by Michael Lavorgna on November 20, 2015 at 14:01:33
Yeah... I did... (I am one busted little troll)You're right...streaming services.... not good. It doesn't follow the model of the traditional music listening enthusiast, - "my music."
You are correct that I mean that the artist doesn't get paid enough. It encourages formulaic, homogenized content because the artist isn't getting paid enough to be unique, - someone playing someone else's songs. When you don't get paid enough, you've got to sell more in order to continue, or eat.
Sigur Ros, Brian Eno, Frank Zappa, Joy Division, Dead Can Dance, if they were first coming out, could never have a place to be in this world....
Certainly streaming services vary in quality. But, hey, who needs another Chesky records? Chesky had great quality recordings, but who cares if/when they have no interesting content?
PS>love your work....
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Edits: 11/20/15Follow Ups:
I still buy CDs at about the same rate as I did before streaming services. The streaming services have just made it more convenient to surf for new music. I went from surfing YouTube and listening on my computer speakers, to surfing YouTube and/or Spotify on my laptop and streaming via AirPlay or Songcast to my system, to having Tidal integrated and treated the same as my local content. Convenience and sound quality is a lot better obviously. I still like using YouTube because the related video links sometimes send me off in unexpected and interesting directions, but don't use it as much anymore because of Tidal.
These days, I still buy CDs for two reasons:
Number one, to make sure that I will always have a copy of music that I really like. Online services and their content will come and go. I learned that lesson from Netflix. At one point it seemed like we could rent every movie we could think of from their DVD by mail service, but that selection has declined a lot in recent years and their streaming service has a worthlessly miniscule catalog.
Number two, if I really like a lesser known band, I want to vote for them with my wallet. Especially if they're on an independent label.
So although streaming services have changed some of my habits, and I buy more downloads than I used to relative to CDs, I still buy music at about the same rate as before.
when I buy a used CD from an Amazon Seller for a buck or two plus the cost of media mail shipping?
Or worse, but a 50 year old used LP?
At the end of the day, streaming will 'save' the music business, not destroy it.
I'm just trying to better understand your point of view. And I do. So thank you for the exchange.When I'm looking for new music on Tidal, the first thing I click on is "Tidal Rising". If you look at the selection you are presented with, I think you may very well change your opinion. Then again, maybe not.
Thank you for the kind words on my work.
Cheers,
Michael Lavorgna
Editor, AudioStream.com
Edits: 11/20/15
I tossed in melodrama.....
Sorry about that....
I carry some bitterness that substantial songwriting success in the music business has not made me successful enough to stop working a day job. I could blame early 2000s .mp3 uploading, short term myopic business practices of robber-baron labels, American Idol, shifts in listening habits, or my own inability to express what was in my head onto magnetic tape: likely the latter is most at play.
Point is, streaming isn't the only thing....
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I think artists have been screwed by the the music business since the beginning of time. Some things never change.
The mid-to late 70s was certainly a "better" time for aspiring artists. That doesn't mean that people were not being screwed over by the "industry."
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I had no idea you were a songwriter. I wish you continued, and better, success.
Michael Lavorgna
Editor, AudioStream.com
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