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In Reply to: RE: Thanks for the review, & postings: question posted by Sordidman on September 22, 2015 at 14:24:38
"There are many factors that go into making the VRDS NEO "better" and the DAC still works great, but the overall sound of the CD Player is significantly better with VRDS NEO transport."
I just don't agree with this. A computer drive playing to a memory buffer with the ability to reread errors does just as well for a lot less money.
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""I just don't agree with this. A computer drive playing to a memory buffer with the ability to reread errors does just as well for a lot less money."Have you performed this comparison? How could it have into the same exact DAC? I can tell you that I've done it with a VRDS NEO, & a Denon: into the same enclosure.
This is an analogy, different disc transports sound different in one box CD players. Just as different computer playback software and USB implementations sound different: with the same DAC, - you've experienced this...
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Edits: 09/22/15
I have a great deal of experience with VDRS. And yes, I have compared one box CD solutions with DAC/computer. I'll take the latter.
How's about Esoteric SACD players with built in DACs? That's my experience.
I have also compared Playback Design SACD / DAC.
Look, we have a difference of opinion that in the grand scheme of things is a piddly difference.
The rest of your system matters and what you have held as gospel truth does not apply generally. If I remember correctly, you had a Levinson amp which can be 'cool' and earlier Wilson speakers which can be 'upfront'. Some noise dithering in a 13.5 bit dac can help change matters, but the reduction in dynamic range and the increase in distortion would have been there ie 18-19 bits from your TEAC and much lower resolution from your TDA1543 valve dac.
The whole thing build down to system matching and component tuning based on understanding the underpinning science.
Actually, the Levinson amps had a warm sound; not remotely cool. I think I was using a Wilson Watt / Puppy 8s in those days.
"The whole thing build down to system matching and component tuning based on understanding the underpinning science."
Lucky for most of us ignorant bastards that the equipment seems to work and provides some pleasure even though we don't understand the underpinning science.
I was making an analogy between two different types of CD transports only.....Not trying to compare computer audio to CD spinners.
I was trying to make the point that what comes out of the computer via USB can vary in SQ and there are differences between the USB signal with different computers....and playback software... no DAC manufacturer can "fix" these differences inside the DAC.....
"Look, we have a difference of opinion that in the grand scheme of things is a piddly difference.""
Yes, that's truly a given. We both speak from our experiences. Although I have not yet heard anything that beats an APL NWO spinning discs with a VRDS-NEO, - I suspect that I will, and soon.
I was likely unclear that I was not talking about computer/digital file playback in drawing the disc transport analogy. That is prolly easily confused as I've been advocate in comparing digital file playback with optical disc spinners. I should've used turntables in the analogy instead.
Without even hearing it, the USB Regen just makes a lot of sense....
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Edits: 09/23/15
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