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In Reply to: RE: "what I run is Jplay streamer and I can recommend that you try it," posted by AbeCollins on September 21, 2015 at 19:21:47
Can we now assume that Exasound is in bed with J River and subscribes to the gasbag forum "bits are bits" religion?
Is this really so? If it is, I guess Exasound belongs on my "do not buy list" along with JRiver.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Their long passage on why KS should not be used contains no comment on it, just why ASIO should be used.
I personally prefer KS on most players and systems.
exaSound is a well respected engineering driven DAC manufacturer. They also write their own ASIO drivers (no simple task). I don't think there's a conspiracy between JRiver and exaSound but they apparently think JPlay is just undocumented "magic" not to be trusted.Who would you trust?
During the past couple of weeks we received a number of requests to "fix" our 64bit Windows ASIO drivers for use with the JPLAY audio player for Windows. We were surprised because older versions of JPlay worked fine with the exaSound ASIO drivers. We did the necessary troubleshooting and debugging, and we can confidently say that there is nothing wrong with our drivers.
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What I read (or thought I read) implied that exaSound might be a purely engineering driven DAC manufacturer. I don't consider this a good sign. I prefer manufacturers who are driven by how their products sound, since that is how I am going to use them. Obviously, to successfully produce cost effective, reliable gear, they also have to have good engineering.Also, it strikes me as a questionably ethical business practice to provide a conduit for "hoax" accusations about products made by another companies. This might be appropriate, were there proof that the product in question was a hoax. However, such proof would amount to a claim that "bits are just bits" at least with the exaSound products. I haven't seen them make that claim, and I would tend to doubt it were they to make it.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Edits: 09/22/15
which seems to me to imply some sort way too much permanence to a software product.
A DAC manufacturer shouldn't be involved in a software war: who knows if either company is going to be around in 5 years.
In the case of ExaSound, the only reason to comment is if they're building a transport.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Hi Tony,
What is even more ridiculous is that they were perfectly happy with all the Jplay customers that used their DAC prior to the new improved Jplay version which actually showed a bug in the driver. Now all of a sudden Jplay is no good anymore, comical actually.
Instead of fixing the driver they insist that KS is bad and that they are only ones that know what they are doing. Kind of funny Jplay works with every other DAC on the market, is there a problem with this picture???
Even worse as you read their little blog you see the comment that because there DAC buffers the packets the transport does not matter. But as you read further down they recommend JRiver and foobar and mentioned that you can change the settings easily in those applications. LOL… Wait a second just a minute ago they mention that there DAC is immune to differences in transports, so why would changing settings matter???
Overall it was pretty stupid... it just shows a lazy manufacturer who does not want to fix the driver and could care less about the customers. And in turn it shows the character of the individual who needed to search the Internet for negativity and bring it up here as a veiled personal attack and to try and derail a conversation.
Regards
Bob
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