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In Reply to: RE: Am I on the right path? posted by Jeff Starr on August 15, 2015 at 10:54:24
Record in the highest sample rate available if that sounds best. Don't worry about the quality of downsampling from that format to 44/16 to burn CDs. Keep the original recording files. Bits are cheaper than your time.
Two reasons:
1. Modern sample rate converters don't lose precision when doing non-integer conversions. The math is more complicated, but computers are much faster than they used to be and the software is much improved. The filtering parameters you use to downsample to 44 kHz will impact the results, but the original PCM sampling rate will not matter.
2. Once you have the high resolution recording and listen to it you may begin to appreciate that the CD format is junk and not worth worrying about. Hence my suggestion to save the orignal high resolution transfers. Most likely, you will get better results recording at 192 kHz than 96 kHz, but you will have to test this with your equipment. Indeed, if you have an inexpensive analog to digital converter, it is even more likely, in my experience, that you will get better results running at the highest available sampling rates.
Another benefit will come later if you try to run audio restoration software on the transfers. This will run better (e.g. do a better job of automatically declicking vinyl rips) made at higher sampling rates, but it will take more time unless you have a very fast computer.
Realize that if you haven't done this kind of work before, you will get more skillful over time and want to redo your early efforts. This can go on for months or years. Take your time and listen carefully to your results and compare the original playback of the LPs with your rips. Transferring analog media to digital is not a mechanical process like ripping a CD to disk. It is important to become skillful at detecting problems so you can maintain a high level of quality control and an efficient operation, given your available equipment.
One essential item of equipment for ripping, or even just listening to LPs, is a vacuum record cleaning machine.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Follow Ups:
I really appreciate all the good advice. There are so many options, many unfortunately budget limited.
Tony, I recently had an experience with the differences of vinyl and CD. I was listening to a vinyl album that I wasn't familiar with. I wasn't happy with the sound, and thought my digital gear had finally surpassed my vinyl gear. So, I put on Sinatra/Ellington's "Frances A. & Edward K.", both the LP and the CD. The difference in dynamics was startling. The horns on the LP just jumped out at me. This is the album I transferred to the PC using Vinyl Studio at 24/88. I ran the declick software at the recommended defaults. The dynamics are still there, what a revelation.
I often play CDs as I can walk away, or if I don't feel like getting up every 15-20 minutes. But I grew up with vinyl, I still have the albums I bought, after getting my first stereo.
I got into the LP transfers because I have on loan access to 6 double length crates of a lot of [to me] rare vinyl, in the first grate all but a few are in plastic sleeves. I haven't found a fingerprint, or a dirty record yet. I originally was going to dip my toe in the PC-Audio waters with some downloads, and some ripping to create custom playlists. Hadn't even considered transferring LPs. At 60, I'm at best computer competent, going from this Vista machine to Windows 10, brought a lot of frustration, at first. I don't own a smart phone, and don't want one. I finally got a little Android tablet, after adding Wi-Fi for my girlfriend, who had a tablet. Now I'm very proficient on the tablet, so this old dog will learn new tricks.
I left the Asylum years ago, because it wasn't fun anymore, too many trolls. I'm finding the regulars here to be a good group.
Thanks everyone for all the tips and info.
I still recommend a vacuum record cleaning machine. In addition to removing a lot of surface noise it also prevents record and stylus wear. The time spent cleaning a side is minimal compared to the time spent cleaning up any noise (even on a clean record). Maybe you can borrow one for your sessions.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
and an anti static gun or such like
Thanks everyone, I hadn't considered that Vinyl Studio might work better in 24/96. So, 24/96 will be what I'll use.
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