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In Reply to: RE: DOA posted by Tony Lauck on July 23, 2015 at 06:54:40
Boy, there's a contractual vocabulary word you would need to know if you were a musician; recoupment.
What it means for a record company is this; every dime they spend on producing the artists album is taken off the top of the artist's cut, until the entire amount is repaid. That is the artist or band is solely liable for the production cost. I've read of bands that recorded and sold albums that went gold only to find out they never made a dime. They were livin' too large during the recording session.
Really your average record exec is about one step above a pimp.
All this to say that a capital outlay of $1000 is a joke to the record companies. It used to be that they could justify their 40% because they did have real capital outlays, like manufacturing the records and shipping them to market. You used their established distribution network. They even said that the 40% helped all the other bands whose records didn't ever break even. It's harder for them to say all that now.
Yes yes, a Sonoma DSD workstation costs $16K, but so does an audiophile approved Playback Designs DAC. You can be sure the record label would amortize the hell out of that Sonoma. When they get on the bandwagon they will rotate engineers on those workstations by shift, and that engineer's chair will never get cold. If they were really smart they would sell them direct from their own website. I already see that to an extent. Back in the day they probably had agreements against this, but these days, goodness knows - anything goes.
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That would be a minimum $1000 charge for the work if it were subcontracted out, not the capital cost.
But if you just want a tape converted to digital without regard to quality it can probably be much less if there is no EQ, no level setting, no editing, no listening and if the studio can use an intern to do the actual work of swapping reels and pushing buttons. I've seen 150 reels transferred to digital and put on a hard drive for 1000 Euro's total. The tapes were in Germany and so this work had to be done there. My only role was to evaluate a few sample files from two different studios for sound quality. I did this blind without knowing the names of the studios or the pricing or equipment. As it turned out the low bidder produced the best sound quality and the overall quality was excellent. The high priced studio used name brand gear, but the sound quality was not so good, probably due to equipment maintenance and setup, so I won't cast any aspersions as to the quality of the gear, which I eventually discovered, only to say that I wouldn't buy this company's products despite their esteemed name in pro audio circles.
I can't comment on the music "business". For me, music is art and love, not business. IMO if this "business" ceased to exist, music and real musicians would probably end up better off. However, even those musicians who have sold out for money aren't as bad as the scum middlemen who end up exploiting them. Just saying...
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
I just used the term "rip" because I have two hi res files, Traffic JBMD and Blindfaith ST, that sound exactly like the vinyl record. Maybe a lot of TLC went into them. I don't know.
Funny, I was going to use the term sausage factory in my previous post, and then you tell of a real life one, in Germany no less.
The gradual jettison of the physical media that has been taking place will blow the whole music system wide open. It's already been happening. Tower Records closed. For new music I think the future is something like Bandcamp, and all the classical download services. They are totally outside the old system. The vending won't be totally atomized. There has to be major vending places where large collections of music for sale are available, but outside of that, it's on. The old system will be for manufactured bands and music. That's been around forever and won't go away. However you may see Bands start to turn the files over directly to the vendor. Here is our new album Bandcamp. Thom Yorke released his new album on Bandcamp. That comes close to a watershed event for me. It's just how will the bands hook up with the good producers?
Oh one thing I forgot. When you do the $1000 transfer session. Be sure to output in DSD, three different PCM sample rates, and a MP3 version. Thanks.
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