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In Reply to: RE: You know what's interesting about digital photography? posted by Jaundiced Ear on June 24, 2015 at 20:18:23
The "extra overhead" of an album in hi-res audio rather than CD quality is one or two gigabytes. The cost to distribute this is less than $0.25 per copy. Now contrast that with the purchase price the consumer pays. There is no significant overhead.
"Normal folks" do not read and post on audiophile web sites.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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"'Normal folks' do not read and post on audiophile web sites."
Oh, it's not so bad as all that. With a tip of the hat to the abnormal folks who post on audiophile web sites, I can assure you that there are still some normal folks posting as well.
JE
I have been involved with fairly serious levels of both audio and photography for 30 years.
They are not significantly comparable. Audio systems are devices for reproducing a signal as accurately as possible.
Photographic systems, except in certain scientific applications, are creative tools.
Digital has simplified both audio and photo systems. Digital audio, however, has made little difference in the outcome. Turntables and vinyl were a pain in the rear to use, but they would get the job done. I don't know that digital has made great difference in what I hear when I sit down after dinner to listen to music.
For years I used Hasselblads and Rolleiflex Twin Lens Reflex cameras. They were wonderful machines. They were, however, big, heavy, and difficult to use. I can carry a Sony A7r with some of the smaller lenses in a jacket pocket. This makes a real difference in the pictures I get to take.
In terms of picture quality, Apple has been running commercials showing what can be done with an IPhone; very spectacular on a HDTV. Of course, IPhones work better with some kinds of subject matter than others, and if you want large prints, you will quickly run into limitations.
I really don't have much an opinion about this. In practice, I'm going to use hi-rez digital cameras, and in theory, it seems to me a silly question, that will produce a lot of silly arguments. Here are a couple of pieces by good photographers talking about the relevant issues. There might be many reasons to use film. I have never used an 8x10camera,but I did use a 4X5 for some time. It puts you in an entirely different relation to the subject matter, and there are a lot of questions that cannot be answered simply. The assumption is that in audio one might want to leave subjective stuff out. In making art it is at least in some sense about subjective expression.
https://luminous-landscape.com/rolleiflex/
https://luminous-landscape.com/rediscovering-8x10/
Playing recordings made by other people is akin to looking at photographic prints made by other people. To participate in audio as you have with photography requires making recordings as well as playing them back. If one does this, one soon realizes that this is an art as well as a science.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Yes, Tony, true enough, but doing photography is perhaps more like making recordings of yourself making music. Or making music in your own studio.
One might think of limiting oneself to photographing with an old simple box camera, and it would put an interesting limit on your work. One can, and people have, done great work with such constraints. I cant imagine anyone being much interested in doing recording with a cheap 1960s tape recorder you might pick up at garage sale.
There is a large scene of photographers devoted to working with a toy camera called the Diana.
When one takes a poor picture and then makes it presentable as a record using D Lighting, Image sharpening, all kinds of adjustments etc, what is being recorded?
I suppose it's like Moog Strikes Bach which was interesting but was a result of electronic manipulation (I am not sure if the musician, or the technician produced it).
Same great work can be done with simple equipment. It does need to be in good repair.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Photographers love the Diana camera because it has such crappy lenses, and no two the same.
nt
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