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In Reply to: RE: Question about USB storage posted by Mike B. on April 22, 2015 at 19:08:17
Mike,
You have a good system. When using a USB DAC you should not have your files on a USB drive. What type of notebook and player software are you using?
Regards
Bob
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Hello Bob. This is the kind of input I was looking for. It seems we don't know much about drives and their sonic qualities? The computer is a Toshiba Satellite laptop with a I-5 processor, 8 gig ram. Music is now on a USB hard drive. I am using DBpoweramp to record and jriver 19 and Fidelizer. I am upscaling everything on the drive to DSD128 to a Wyredforsound DAC2 DSD SE. What would you recommend?
Hi Mike,
I noticed what DAC you have that's why I mentioned the USB fact. It is not necessarily about the sound of the drive but more so you do not want it on the same bus as your DAC. It is better to have your files either in your case internal, or possibly external if the laptop has say an ESATA port. You really never want anything to interfere with the stream that is going to your DAC. If you are really enjoying the sound your getting up sampling, I would recommend trying HQ player. There is a free demo on their website. It is excellent for what you are doing, probably the best by far when it comes to sound quality while up sampling. It is an excellent program, the only drawback some people feel is the interface is a bit rudimentary. It works well but it is not the prettiest. This does not bother me, or most users so give it a try you will be glad you did.
Regards
Bob
Thanks Bob. Any sonic advantage in SSD over conventions drives? I know about the speed difference
Hi Mike,
As far as comparing SSD to spinning drives people do find improvements by using an SSD for storage. I have not compared them myself yet. I definitely recommend and use an SSD for the operating system drive in my music computers. I also use SATA filters and power the drive with DC. These have made a difference in sound quality. You are somewhat limited as far as these things because you're using a notebook computer, but as you go along such improvements can make a difference. If your notebook has an eSATA port try putting your external drive on that. You could also add an eSATA card if you have a slot. Another thing I would recommend is going over to Computer Audio and looking at the thread on the Regen. It is a USB device which regenerates a cleaner USB signal and will definitely improve any system that is using an onboard USB port. Any Mac user or person using a notebook should take a look at the Regen.
Regards
Bob
Thanks again Bob. Unfortunately my laptop is limited to USB, HDMI, RGB, and eithernet type ins and outs. Cost might kill me going to SSD since I need at least a 1.5 TB drive.
I have a pretty involved audio PC setup with OS on mSATA card, linear PS, etc, and while I'm sure it's situation-dependent, I dont' find much difference between USB (3.0) and eSATA for data storage.
It's easy to compare because the Minipro enclosure has both eSATA and USB, and you can level the playing field by using an external PS (included) for both eSATA and USB (most 2.5" USB drives can only use computer's USB BUS power).
For the battery people, the Minipro can be powered by a 5V battery PS, which there are many out there. I'm using the Bakoon Lithium unit.
Hi Jon,
As long as his laptop has both USB2 and USB3... They would be on different controllers and that would be a solution.
Funny you mentioned that case. I am planing to pick one up to use eSATA with the new Toshiba 3TB drive when it comes out. I an using a ZOTAC CI320NANO as a small fan-less NAS running server 2012 and AO with an internal 2TB drive. Less expensive than the QNAP HS-251... I have been comparing this with my Synology NAS both running MinimServer.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883218038
http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/product/storage-products/specialty/mq03abbxxx.html
It's probably my favorite enclosure over the years. All metal for good heat dissipation, no need for fan.
I dropped a 1 TB Samsung Evo in there, and it's totally silent, cool, trouble-free.
I will say this about eSATA, though. eSATA really needs the computer side to have a dedicated eSATA controller/card. Those setups with internal SATA simply converted to eSATA with cable/connectors without controller are very unreliable. I've had several different setups like that that inexplicably lose connection between computer and outboard enclosure...
Open up the device manager in the "Connection View". This will show how your USB devices are connected. If you have more than one USB host controller then it may be possible (if you have enough USB sockets) to configure your disk on one host controller and your DAC on another one.
If you move things about, use "scan for hardware changes" to update the diagram. I found that I can move USB devices between my two controllers on my desktop machine and if I needed to run USB devices while listening to a USB DAC that's what I would do. Don't know about laptops, though...
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"It is a USB device which regenerates a cleaner USB signal and will definitely improve any system that is using an onboard USB port."
Wow. Any system, huh? That's fascinating. It's also amazing that you had the time and resources to try every conceivable system.
You give such good advice. I am going to print your posts out from now on.
It is designed by John Swenson and you are just a Troll.
Sad when useless individuals such as yourself denigrate real people doing real things. Maybe you should read and learn...
I truly don't understand what any of that has to do with what I posted. Though, I'm still printing it anyway. I'm trusting that someday, after immersing myself in it long enough, some of It's true glory may finally rub off on me.
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