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In Reply to: RE: And assuming your post is sincere, posted by Ryelands on April 18, 2015 at 05:41:32
"My point is that your argument is circular. One the one hand, you say you can't hear a difference between Jplay and your default setup (which is perfectly reasonable) but, on the other, you put the onus on those who dismiss JRiver's claim that JPlay distorts the sound to prove their point (without, incidentally, asking for JRiver to prove its)."It seems to me you are putting words into JRiver's mouth and then attacking me for not knowing what you are talking about. JRiver's site says:
"JRiver recommends that you uninstall Jplay. It adds a layer of sound processing that can degrade sound quality, performance, and stability."
Note the word "can" in that quote. It means that sound degradation is a possibility, not a certainty. That's a far cry from saying "JPlay distorts the sound," your words and not JRiver's. Why you are so upset about something JRiver did not say, and why you think I'm putting the burden on others to disprove something I don't think was ever said is beyond me.
Now, if there is another quote that I'm unaware of, then I'll be happy to read it if you provide a link to it.
JE
Edit: Added link to JRiver's "Jplay is a Hoax" web page.
Edits: 04/18/15Follow Ups:
. . . you are putting words into JRiver's mouth and then attacking me for not knowing what you are talking about.
Yes, of course I've read the JRiver note. It didn't take long. In the context of your belittling tone and given that "can distort" is an untestable proposition, it was not a significant misquote but I'll happily change "distorts" in my post to read "can distort".
That done, my points stand, your argument is still circular, you still seem not to know what a "null hypothesis" is, we still (as Mercman notes) don't know the conditions under which you tested JPlay and you have again changed the subject.
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but I am not here looking to pick a fight.
With that said, you're now complaining about picking at nits?!? What on earth have our recent exchanges been if not picking at nits?
If you are not arguing about the language on the page I linked to, then just what is it you are arguing about?
Again, I'm not trying to pick a fight. Help me out here. Please explain, so that even a cretin like me can follow, how my argument is circular. In fact, please tell me what you think my argument is. At this point I am completely bewildered about what it is you are talking about.
With all respect.
JE
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