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In Reply to: RE: Oh good grief! posted by Mercman on April 06, 2015 at 06:21:11
"Aren't you curious?"
Not really. I'm pretty skeptical that it provides any audible benefits.
Have you read mitchco's review comparing JPlay to JRiver? I find it persuasive. Mitchco couldn't hear any difference between the two, and when comparing their respective analog outputs he got a null of ~ -90db. That's comparable to a distortion level of ~0.003%, not nearly enough to get me curious. And that was after having run the signal through an analog stage which will introduce noise to the signal. I suppose you could look at mitchco's results two ways: either JPlay does little to the audio output, or JRiver recreates the JPlay "magic" without the expense or hassle.
If we are supposed to believe people claiming to hear a difference with JPlay, shouldn't we extend the same courtesy to those claiming to hear no difference? If that results in competing, contradictory claims, why can't we then look to objective measurements to help us decide which side deserves more credence? So far as I know, the objective measurements all seem to back up those claiming to hear no differences. Are there any objective measurements out there that show JPlay making a meaningful difference in the audio output of computers?
JE
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Well then it's a done deal for you. I find just about all of Mitchco's conclusions to be garbage.Believe what works for you.
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Let's just say I'm very cautious about what I put on my PC. When confronted with a program that is designed to tamper with the inner workings of a PC, my caution meter pretty much gets pegged. You've worked with this thing. Just how intrusive is it? More importantly for me, how cleanly does it uninstall?
Why do you say mitchco's conclusions are garbage? He listened to JPlay and didn't hear any difference. Why are the claims of those reporting a difference more credible than the claims of those reporting no difference? Mitchco provided evidence to support his claim that JPlay does little, if anything. Are there tests out there that show JPlay having a meaningful impact on a PC's output?
JE
"When confronted with a program that is designed to tamper with the inner workings of a PC, my caution meter pretty much gets pegged."Stop the BS it is getting pretty annoying now!!!
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"Stop the BS is is getting pretty annoying now!!!"
Learn how to write English! It is getting pretty annoying now!
You are behind the times. I've already downloaded and installed the free version of JPlay. I'll spare you the suspense: it doesn't do anything that I can notice.
JE
Jim must be so proud.
As well he should! He's able to put out a fully featured media player that sounds every bit as good as JPlay's featureless attempt at a media player, and at a fraction of the price!
Why aren't you thrilled at this audio bargain? Do you enjoy spending extra money for no reason?
JE
JRiver is a midfi product. It cost way more that you let on. Every time they want some extra cash they put out an new version. LOL A couple versions ago they actually said the look was changing... Still looks the exact same. No real changes, except for a new number and needed patches. Actually sold Beta to MAC users and before they finished it actually wanted to charge for an upgrade... smh... Please keep your bloated advertizing laden software. Great for the kids to watch movies with or play MP3s but not an audiophile product.
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