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In Reply to: RE: I am playing now with a small Pipo X7 tha comes with 8.1 Bing bong ... posted by fmak on February 18, 2015 at 00:31:11
Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the very precious advice.
First thing this evening.
And also thank you very much indeed for directing me to this very nice little pc ... i already love it, updating aside but now i know that is a non issue.
It is completely silent and stays at ambient temperature.
I have bought already another one to be kept as spare.
I have not yet done a more serious listening ... but i already like the sound a lot indeed. The other one i will keep completely isolated by the net after the installation to avoid "infections".
Are you using the stock PS or something better ?
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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PS - fed from modified (by me) LM317 9V
Micro SD is good with Sandisk Extreme. You don't even need a usb HDD if you are content with up to 128G storage! Bit pricey though.
Hi and sorry but i do not understand
The supply voltage is 12VDC i see ... do you mean that it works also with 9VDC ?
I am using a normal 12VDC/2A because the stock has US standard plug.
For the additional memory i do not think i will need any more.
I am using the Pipo essentially as a streamer in the end, a very beautiful little streamer.
This evening i will try to playback some HD files from a nas i have.
Then i will connect my Gustard U12 usb > spdif converter and start with evaluations of some dacs i already have at hand.
Thanks again for directing me to this that could very well be my final audio pc ... at least for the next months.P.S. I would have loved to use also Linux but the lack of drivers for usb dacs/converters is stopping me. But i feel that also Linux operated pcs (and maybe even Android) have a huge potential.
For instance is amazing what Android can do with very little HW resources ... i have already many Android media players that stream so nicely but they all lack drivers for dacs. A real pity.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 02/18/15 02/18/15 02/18/15 02/18/15
Sorry I should have said 12VBefore listening, consider killing speedstep and EIST plus S0ix in Bios. This reduces latency by a lot. After that, it still only needs 5-6Watts.
Edits: 02/18/15
Hi and sorry to bother you again
But i played a little with the Bios settings
First i am impressed by the huge amount of settings available.
This is both and opportunity and a threat for an ignorant like me.
For instance i set something wrong and i got remarkable negative issues in the playback.
I think i have found a reasonable combination, without knowing what i am doing by the way.
As i would like to understand a little more the meaning of the various parameters, do you know maybe if any "tutorial" about the "Pipo X7 Bios" is available somewhere ?
Moreover is there a way to check the pc latency ?
I have found a program but it does not work with 8.1, unfortunately.
Sorry and thanks a lot again.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 02/18/15 02/18/15
You can save the BIOS settings before altering Goto the last page.
With each setting, you can google to see what it does; I do that.
It seems that S0ix needs to be disabled for latency to be low.
For latency display, download Latency Mon.
Hi thanks a lot again ! i am very optimistic now
At first streaming HD content was so so ... then after some wrong bios changes quite bad. Now after further bios changes is quite ok !
So the bios settings impact the performance a lot !
And the sound is very clean even through the dac in the tv ... i am not joking.
I imagine it can only be better with a decent dac
i should receive a Apogee Rosetta 200 soon (i know that is not audiophile approved but i have great respect of Apogee brand).
Thanks a lot again.
Have a nice day.P.S. by the way i checked and i have a 32 bit version of Windows 8.1 Bing. I would have preferred 64 bit version, but this is really cheap (i.e. free)
Have you got also the 32 bit version ? I see that the cpu is indeed 64 bit.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 02/19/15
you have to have this
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZBOX-CI320NANO-U-W2-nano-Plus-Windows/dp/B00M4OEPLA
Walmart is even cheaper! But can't get in in Europe (or Asia).
You have just discovered who is right. Those who say that settings make no difference to audio, or those who find that they do.
I'd also get rid of prefetch, hibernation, system restore, pagefile etc.
Hi and thanks a lot again.
I am perfectly fine with the X7. And i can confirm that a wrong setting in the BIOS was giving me scratches and drops in the sound and hiccups in the videos.
So my next weeks will be dedicated to learn more about the various parameters. To try to get the best out of it.I think that also Linux can be great but the lack of drivers support stops me. It is also not very demanding for HW i think.
Maybe it could even work on the X7 platform ?
And also it is amazing what Android (also Linux based) can do with the poor HW of some media player.This X7 is very nice indeed and stays silent and cold.
I feel it can be a very good streamer.
Thanks a lot again.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 02/19/15 02/19/15
Zotac CI1320 with 64 bit Bing from Amazon US. More powerful than Pipo -64G SSD 4GRam eSata/usb3 inputs. Around $280 delivered.
Hi and thanks a lot for the interesting suggestionFirst of all a question about Office 365 ... i have deleted it from my X7
But do you know maybe if they will charge automatically after one year ?
I would like very much to avoid this inconvenienceThen lately also with your valuable advice i have realized the impact on a pc performance of bios setting and OS.
I am not in high rez files so the power is usually not an issue.
At this point i have only some beliefs about what is better:
- a 64 bit OS
- Linux OS (i see the others too much loaded with features )
- SSD
This said i am presently completely fine with the X7 that has 32 bit Win 8.1 Bing and EMMC (i.e. no one of the feautures above mentioned).
So i think that in the end there are many alternative paths to sonic pleasure.
But if i should choose a system i have the strong feeling that Linux is the right choice.
We can have the best SW in the world, but if the OS or the Bios are not optimal it is a really bad start.
Moreover Linux comes with different version all interesting
- Daphile, Ubuntu Studio and even OpenElec that is unbelievably small.Anyway i cannot find the link to the " Zotac CI1320 with 64 bit Bing " you mention.
I have already a Zotac somewhere but with a fan ... these fans are my current nightmare. After trying a fanless pc there is no going back.
Like for SSD ... what an amazing discovery ... amazing !!!!
I think.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 02/22/15 02/22/15 02/22/15 02/22/15
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZBOX-CI320NANO-U-W2-nano-Plus-Windows/dp/B00M4OEPLA
no idea what MS charges for 365. It is not, in my case appropriate for
a low power music computer.
Hi and thanks for the link ... very nice little unit indeed.
About 365 i hope they will ask me before charge for it just that.
I will check that easily because 8.1 with Bing is going to become extremely popular. Maybe there is a trick that i do not see.
Like with Google ? they already know almost everything of me.
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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