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In Reply to: RE: BTW - I agree with Abe concerning your snarky comments about Apple posted by Chris from Lafayette on January 17, 2015 at 13:53:53
1. Abe is an obvious (possibly even self-professed) Apple fan boy.
2. Apple was a dying company that was rescued by Steve Jobs, a psychopath.
3. Apple continues to follow Job's business strategy of locking in their customers and then exploiting them.
4. Sprezza Tura has an different opinion of Apple than Abe.
Just my opinion, FWIW which may not be much.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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3. Apple continues to follow Job's business strategy of locking in their customers and then exploiting them.No one is forcing anyone to buy Apple products but they must be doing something right having the highest market cap of any public company in the world along with the highest brand value. Fact. I guess success makes them a bad guy and a target. To be expected.
And if you're following Apple at all you'll see that the company isn't as locked into Job's old vision as it used to be.
It's going to be fun watching "Apple Pay" vs MCX "CurrentC". Which evil will win? ;-)
Edits: 01/19/15 01/19/15
"...they must be doing something right having the highest market cap of any public company in the world along with the highest brand value."
"No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Do you really expect gramps and gramma to be conversant with LINUX systems of the type that you use? The reason Apple has triumphed in the consumer market is because all kinds of people can actually use Apple products (imagine!).
This forum is about computer audio. I would assume that everyone here has some competence in computers. For reading the posts, most people claim to have this ability.
I run Linux headless on embedded systems. I use Windows 7 and 8.1 for day to day use because that's the way my systems are set up. (Depends on paid applications, among other things.) But I could run Linux perfectly well for office tasks, since the open source office applications that I use on Windows also run on Linux. It took some time for me to be come sufficiently familiar with Linux to be able to do system management to my satisfaction.
The majority of Gramps and Grammas that I use Windows. However, all the people that I am friends with are pretty smart. I don't hang out with fools. So perhaps you are right. I don't personally know any fools who are supporting Apple's market cap. I've been around the computer industry for 50 years, and I've seen a lot of companies rise and fall.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Tony whether you realize it or not there are many technical professionals who CHOOSE to use Mac as I do. I have a couple decades experience on UNIX as well as DOS/Windows since the beginning of the PC. Mac OS is breath for fresh air for me.
I made the switch from Windoze to Mac about 7 years ago. Linux is still not ready for prime time IMHO as a desktop environment (although great for the datacenter) and many open source applications are quite crippled. I know, having used OpenOffice and LibreOffice for a few years. MS Word, PPT, Excel even on Mac is far superior and more stable than the open source alternatives.
My only regret is not making the transition to Mac OS sooner. And when absolutely necessary, I can run Windoze just fine on my Mac.... as well as Linux, Solaris, etc.
So anyone who uses Apple equipment is a fool?
BTW, although I've used Macs since they first came out in the 80's, I've also used Windoze computers at work during my 26 years working for a couple of large financial institutions. I've also run LINUX on an iMac. Personally, I would never buy PC's running Windoze for myself, unless I didn't have any other choice. YMMV and all that.
You know, you are very bright in some ways (and I tip my hat to your engineering knowledge), but you have this inflexible, doctrinaire attitude on a number of subjects that's completely unjustified IMHO. You say that the MAJORITY of oldsters you know run Windoze. So are the others fools?
How about we stop with the Mac vs Windows debate..this is a Pono thread..specific to the music store..NOT the player.
A number of us can't help ourselves however. ;-)
"So anyone who uses Apple equipment is a fool?"
No, anyone who is not smart enough to use Windows systems after making a reasonable effort is a fool. Also, anyone who is unwilling to try to learn something new has passed his or her "use by date".
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
1. Who cares if Abe is a fanboy? Big deal.
2. Jobs is/was no different than many(most) CEO's of major corporations. Being a psychopath is almost a job requirement for these type positions. No news here.
3. Apple is not locking anyone into anything. This is a free market people are free to purchase what they wish. Apple appeals to that segment of the market that has no desire to be a computer-techno-nerd and spend endless hours, days, weeks, etc., tinkering with and trying to get their toys working. Apple products work and are easy to understand/use. The rest of the industry could learn a lesson from Apple in this regard. Job's understood the market quite well and understood most average people have little if any tolerance for the typical computer/tech toy issues.
4. I have a different opinion as well. I prefer to get work done on my computer rather than having to constantly dink with the thing something I was constantly doing with my Windows based systems. Sometimes just to get the damn thing turned on!!!!
Let's add with respect to Pono:
-a poster quotes Mark Waldrep, a bitter competitor who on his blog made
numerous false statements about Pono
-Abe continually asks "what is the point" of the pono player and is told repeatedly this thread is not about the player, but the download store.
-Abe continually asks "what is the point" of the music store and is told repeatedly:
-they have exclusive content not available anywhere else currently,
-that Neil Young has convinced other veteran musicians to remaster their catalogs for beyond CD resolution distribution,
-that if an album becomes available in a higher resolution at some point in the future, the purchaser will have free access that download,
-their content dwarfs HDT and Acoustics Sounds combined,
-even if none of the above were the case, a third download store is good for the consumer, as competition always is.
Despite all this, the response is a trolling, "So there is no point".
THAT is a good summary.
"1. Abe is an obvious (possibly even self-professed) Apple fan boy." Check.
"2. Apple was a dying company that was rescued by Steve Jobs, a psychopath." As opposed to Microsoft run by a reasonably sane Steve Ballmer(pictured above).
"3. Apple continues to follow Job's business strategy of locking in their customers and then exploiting them." As opposed to Microsoft, see #2 above.
"4. Sprezza Tura has an different opinion of Apple than Abe." Check.
Some say the world is run by psychopaths. I don't believe that Linus Torvalds is one. I could care less about Steve Ballmer.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
During the period of Apple's huge success with the iPhome, Steve Ballmer was running Microsoft into the ground.I was a Palm (Treo) Fanboy, so WTFDIK?
To the extent that ANYONE is supporting resolution greater than MP3, or even 16/44.1, more power to them.
Never purchased music from Apple but my wife has had an iPod since nearly forever and rips her CDs at as high a quality as she can, even if it doesn't hold many hours of music.
Edits: 01/18/15 01/18/15
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OK, edited post to add clarity!
"I was a Palm Fanboy,"
Sorry you couldn't find a girlfriend!
Maybe you can try getting rid of the animated cats.
'Cause you guy are AWFUL!
Don't worry, the Palm was THE best PDA before it finally went belly up. I had a couple Palm Pilot models over the years and they were awesome!
I then jumped on BlackBerry because of the tactile keyboard but hated everything else about it including it's antiquated OS, clunky operation, junk Applications. It was a real P.O.S. that I was happy to dump after a year of pain and suffering!!
I finally made the move to iPhone and haven't looked back.
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