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In Reply to: RE: Wrong posted by Stephen Murphy on January 17, 2015 at 07:30:59
I would have to agree that anyone who says SOTA analog is not high resolution is well..
As far as 44/16, as you said if that is all there is, that is all there is for certain recordings. And Pono has been upfront about this.
There must be a whole lot of folks who feel threatened by Pono..I don't see the reason for some of the negative spin.
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such as glitches in Pono Music World software and the Pono player firmware (these bugs are being worked out as they come up). Also, the Pono store could be easier to browse (eg, by genre or file resolution). But, hey, they just got started . . . no doubt they will continue to evolve.
But, yeah, some of the press and posts in this thread are way over-the-top in their criticism. IMO, Pono is a HUGE boon for computer audiophiles.
Absolutely! There are valid criticisms!
I will be the first one to admit nothing is grouped by category..resolution, artist, genre...etc...in the works.
But they have been open TWO WEEKS!
There are several SIGNIFICANT advantages over HDT and SHR:
-first, as you mentioned, if a title is only available currently in 44.1/16 and later becomes available in higher resolution, you get that, free.
-there is a MESSAGE BOARD...users are free to post REVIEWS and discuss releases.
-There are STILL no user reviews allowed at the competition.
-Titles not available anywhere else
-long out of print or import only CD tiles
-Constant communication from management on their blog posts
-There will be 4 Million tracks available by the end of the year. Dwarfing HDT after 5 years and others.
GOOD RIDDANCE TO THE SHORT SIGHTED!!!
About to make my first purchase today..
both 24 bit, paid $30 including tax. Not bad compared to HDT. There was some funky interaction btw my copy of JRNC, which was open, and PMW which is required to DL. But, otherwise, it went smoothly.
Thanks for that info!
One album (Wilco's Yankee Foxtrot Hotel) was $16.29 - about identical to HDTracks after the 10% coupon. The other was a 24/44 from Kasey Chambers ($12.29)that is NOT available from HDT.
Don't tell Abe . . don't want to give him a reason to shop PonoMusic ;P
Don't worry I won't tell Small Thinker.
I think he got his panties in a bunch because I dared indict his beloved Apple in their role in the destroying audio quality.
"Don't worry I won't tell Small Thinker.
I think he got his panties in a bunch because I dared indict his beloved Apple in their role in the destroying audio quality."
Not to defend Abe because he is often a putz and in this thread is pretty wrong as usually... It is not just Apple. The average consumer never listened to anything close to decent quality. Maybe you are too young, but in the good old days...what do you think most people listened to 45s... and on what equipment? Ask Tony. Most people did no have anything approaching hifi, and the mass market sadly is where the $$$ is.
Hope the Pono thing works... We would benefit.
You make a good point that many consumers never had anything near good fidelity in their homes, but many did.And going back to the era of 45's, is really not applicable here.
There was a period between 1989 and around 2002 where CDs sounded very very good, with plenty of dynamic range in the mastering and the use of the original master tapes, along with superb boutique mastering from Mobile Fidelity and DCC, and great labels like Telarc.
Along comes Apple and flips over the apple cart, er, so to speak.
It is certainly NOT all Apple's fault, It takes two to tango, and consumers were convinced by shrewd marketing, and finally musicians caved in too.
I appreciate you saying that regardless of whether you give a damn about Pono or not, ultimately all of us will benefit...more selection, competition, and new remasterings done with care. Where is the downside?
Edits: 01/18/15
"There was a period between 1989 and around 2002 where CDs sounded very very good, with plenty of dynamic range in the mastering and the use of the original master tapes, along with superb boutique mastering from Mobile Fidelity and DCC, and great labels like Telarc."
True, lots of very good stuff... Some people did actually care and and mastered properly.
I forgot about Jobs' Sacred Cow that made mp3s the de facto format. That, indeed, might explain Abe's insistence that there is no reason for Pono to exist.
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