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In Reply to: RE: USB Cables posted by mwheelerk on December 18, 2014 at 01:34:36
That is because you are honest and rational.
None of these others guys can hear a difference either.
A USB cable made from coat hangers will sound as good as an audiophool cable.
If the cable is too long, it will fail the parity check and not work at all.
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I once did a single blind test of an optical cable versus a coax cable. Levels were perfectly matched. Spent about a half hour listening to music with both cables until I could identify a short segment of music that I noticed a difference in sound. We then did the blind test with that segment of music I correctly identified which cable I was hearing in 17 out of 17 tries. Personally I feel DBT is a waste of time and feel only long term listening is the way to compare components. I have an Atlas USB cable and am being sent a Chord USB cable. I will compare the to and see if I here any differences
Alan
Alan
But that doesn't mean that blind tests aren't useful. Your example is a good one....in a blind test you heard a difference, and proved it. That is much more useful to all of us than some subjective review where you gush for four paragraphs about all the amazing things you heard with your pricy new cable with all sorts of flowery language and drool-stained photos of the fancy box it was packaged in when you received it from the manufacturer.
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I've found that also.
"flowery language and drool-stained photos of the fancy box it was packaged in"
OK, I'm laughing. Sounds like the opening (or is it the debouching) of an Apple product. It pains me to have to pay the marked up price for that glitz and glitter that apparently gives real devotees an orgasmic "out of box" experience.
In contrast I bought some stuff from Mad Scientist Audio the other day and it came in a scrunched up cardboard box with shredded newspaper in it. And a candy bar. And of course the product which was in perfect shape. Cable manufacturers and Apple could learn a thing or two from them when it comes to packaging: More of it should be edible!
Rick
What did you get and what did you think of its performance? Have been eying their entry level power cable for a some time.
The things I got were the feet. Sort of constrained-layer damping gadgets, very flat on the top and a metal ball on the bottom with a rubbery coating. I have a Nakamichi power amplifier with rather ringy heatsink fins so my first shot, just for fun, was to just lay the three of them across the TOP of the Amp. upside down and overlapping the heatsinks mounting a little to see if I could hear any difference. They didn't actually touch the fins.
Well, the difference was dramatic, I've had the Amp. for decades and have enjoyed listening to it thousands of hours. But just sitting the feet on the top opened up, well, I guess you could say all sorts of inner detail. I don't care for flowery audiophile prose but at least at first blush it was really impressive.
Years ago when Charlie Hanson was a more active poster he advised me to at least put some tape on the heatsink fins to damp the ringing and it's been on my someday-list since. Now that issue has moved up considerably.
That was just yesterday so based on really scant data I'd say that they are pretty good at vibration which oddly enough is what they appear to be designed for...
So, that was a long-winded non-answer to your question as it isn't a cable. However on the basis that the product I bought seems to actually work (even though I'm not applying it right so far), I'd say your odds are pretty good.
I'd be intersted in the hearing how the cables work out if you take the plunge...
Rick
Best sound I got was when all the equipment except for the speakers and last few feet of speaker wires were on a separate floor. Running up and down a flight of stairs kept me in shape and perhaps this affected my hearing. It definitely helped with vibration on the TT and there were no footfalls as the lower floor was a concrete slab.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Man that should be worth at least $10-20K!
I think that at least some of the value of hyper-expensive gear is psychological. Perhaps some of your scheme is of the same ilk. If I had to run downstairs to flip the record it had better be incredibly good or else! And having done so I'd have EARNED the reward of exceptional performance.
Maybe you have invented the first audio tweak that the surgeon general would be willing to endorse!
Rick
Pretending doesn't count - and, since you, personally, by your repeated admission, CAN NOT hear a difference, what do we have left? Nonsensical empty blathering, as usual?
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You seem to be imagining things again. At no point have I ever made a statement that all cables, of all types, sound exactly the same. And I have the overpriced (well, I bought them used, which helped a bit) Cardas Golden Reference cables to prove it. :-)
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No one wants to look like a complete idiot, right? Even if, in fact, one can not hear any difference, and posts ad nauseum to that effect, short of admitting the simple fact.
not all cables to my ears, offer a difference, but sometimes, with certain segments of music, I can tell a difference with certain cables...at least I think I can hear differences.
Not saying that this applies across the range of all types of cables and then all cables within a 'type' of cable, but yeah...I can hear some differences.
Chris
The AQ carbon has a very dark coloration, and dampened dynamics, in my system, for whatever reason. I also swapped with a generic cheap black USB and it sounded better than the AQ carbon, in my system. The mapleshade has a distinct cleaner treble, than the other 2. Or maybe I am just a mental case...
Your observation puzzles me considering we're both running the Mac Mini.... and I also owned the Wavelength Brick v3.I use the AQ Carbon and it sounds great, not at all 'dark' or dampened but I run it on a PS Audio NuWave DAC these days.
I ran the Brick with the AQ Carbon, an inexpensive Pangea, and some other USB cable (that purple one in the picture below, I don't recall). The overall sound was still on the dark, soft, and veiled side for me compared to other DACs, regardless of USB cable.
You can barely see my black brick on top the Pass linestage
Brick on my MacBook Pro
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A few more things since it appears to I am a delusional heretic- the AQ carbon is 1.5 meters which I got from Wavelength, the Mapleshade cable is 1m long. I heard the same muffled sound when I brought this cable to my PC> NAD3020D> Pioneer speaker. I also placed the Wavelength on 3 small brass cones (not Mapleshade) since, and I use a Kimber silver streak from the brick to the preamp.
Yes the Wavelength is dark and somewhat veiled but not as much without the AQ cable (and on the brass cones).
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